tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post1806392267428853747..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Buffy Rewatch Week 27Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-73623584249972014682011-07-12T13:21:56.968-04:002011-07-12T13:21:56.968-04:00I'm so late to the party! I've been way be...I'm so late to the party! I've been way behind on my rewatching. . .and nothing really to comment upon except:<br /><br />Forrest--does anyone else think his hostility towards Buffy smack of homophobia/repressed feelings towards Riley? Just me?<br /><br />Regarding Angel: Eternity and Superstar both comment upon fame and notoriety, in different ways, within one week of each other.<br /><br />I love the character of Kate on Angel, and her interaction with the co-worker about Scully/Mulder is so funny, especially as an old X-Files fan:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997191228899274706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1106343858247945672011-07-11T03:36:10.781-04:002011-07-11T03:36:10.781-04:00Late and not organised at all, but I will say a co...Late and not organised at all, but I will say a couple of things.<br /><br />"New Moon Rising" is the episode that breaks my heart all over again. I love Oz, and I love Willow & Oz together and to have him back only to be dumped, tortured and prove that he was very wrong in thinking he had found a solution to his problem is just cruel. Ah well, I can still dream that one day Willow will turn a corner in Instanbul...<br /><br />I am one more of those who believe Season 4 is the weakest -it was better this time around, the first time I was terribly diappointed, what with having loved Season 3 and all. I understand why the protagonists had to grow apart, but I still didn't like it; the wonderful Giles wasn't used enough or properly; Buffy being involved with the Initiative plainly annoyed me, as did most of the military people; Riley is so blah, and I really can't understand why Buffy is with him -I was never a fan of Angel, but in comparison, he easily outshines Riley; even though it can be argued what the Big Bad really is, Adam as the personification of the Initiative is the lamest Big Bad in the entire Buffy series (first-time watchers, rejoice!). Thank heavens for Spike, Anya, "Hush" and Faith's return...<br />I did like how the arc ended at least. I loved that once again it is shown that Buffy is strong because of her friends and not despite them. And I felt I was right to always like Willow, Xander and Giles a bit better than Buffy, because after all they are Spirit, Heart and Mind.<br /><br />Many people talk about this Season being about science and technology vs. magic and intuition, but I disagree: in the Buffyverse, for the Slayers and the Watchers, vampires, demons etc are fact; the Scoobies have always worked in a very scientific way -research of previous works, observation, trial and error. To me it feels more like Scientists (Scoobies) vs. Crackpots (Initiative) (I am a Woman of Science, so I feel the need to defend it...).<br /><br />On to the strangest season finale ever.Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-58025906703485533252011-07-07T16:51:02.492-04:002011-07-07T16:51:02.492-04:00On "Primeval": When the uber-Slayer say...On "Primeval": When the uber-Slayer says to Adam that he should "Never hope to grasp the source of our power," she's really saying it to the government at large. It's really neat that the bigwigs actually get the message, or so one assumes (it is the government after all, and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes well). <br /><br />@Colleen: I think Oz would have been MORE upset if Willow had moved on with a man. He's shocked, no question, because this is a change he couldn't have foreseen. Willow has only said to Buffy that she thinks her doppelganger was "kinda gay." Rational Oz knows that Willow would have to move on, even if he hasn't; it's the wolf that doesn't get it. In the wild, wolves pair for life, and that's why he reacts the way he does to his "mate's" scent on someone else. The fact that he still can tell her to run is a victory for his human side. Or is it? Does he want her to run because he's concerned that he might kill her, or does he want her to run because he wants the thrill of the chase? We'll never know.<br />On Riley's chipectomy: Maybe the chip allowed him to move a little, like if he was in physical peril and he found a way to exploit that? I think we're supposed to assume that Riley is a very strong individual and he can overcome a lot. Maybe.<br /><br />@AEC: To echo kluu, remember that the demon doesn't get your soul, but it does have all your memories and has the capacity to want the same things you wanted. It would certainly have served Alanna's purposes to turn her brother into a vampire, and would have satisfied the demon side as well. <br /><br />@ChristinaB.: It hurts EVERY time I watch it.<br /><br />@Lisa: Maybe Angel could smell Buffy all over Riley and that's how he knew?lyssiriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05486340765329339072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-31147218655057101932011-07-07T07:31:29.020-04:002011-07-07T07:31:29.020-04:00@Colleen, Riley overrided the chip by cutting it o...<i>@Colleen, Riley overrided the chip by cutting it out of himself with the broken glass on the table.<br /></i><br /><br />He had to override the chip to do that. How? He should have had no control of his body.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-47687514033447875122011-07-06T22:28:27.319-04:002011-07-06T22:28:27.319-04:00I loved Sanctuary - it was very moving and powerfu...I loved Sanctuary - it was very moving and powerful. And I have fallen for Wesley. <br /><br />Since I have now watched all of Buffy, in retrospect it seems obvious Tara and Willow are together, but the first time around I was pretty slow on the uptake. And I'm from NYC! It hurt to watch Oz and Willow, but she made the right choice. <br /><br /><br />Maybe I'm a softee. OK, not maybe, but I loved that it required them all to come together to fight Adam. The Slayer is NOT alone, and needs those around her to fight her most challenging battles.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-11882671433578054142011-07-06T20:41:06.854-04:002011-07-06T20:41:06.854-04:00@Colleen, Riley overrided the chip by cutting it o...@Colleen, Riley overrided the chip by cutting it out of himself with the broken glass on the table.<br /><br />I have to say that I cried when Oz showed up at Giles' house. During this rewatch, I thought I could never, ever accept Willow with Tara again after reliving the Willow/Oz relationship, but I have to say that Willow/Tara is still truly unique, powerful and believeable. Go Tara, Willow and Miss Kitty Fantastico!<br /><br />How on earth did Angel know that was Riley in the alley...did Buffy have photos in her wallet???<br /><br />I adore how Angel helped Faith, and I admire Wesley for allowing it to happen. Cordelia in her sunglasses heading out of the office for a while because Faith was there is a crackup, and spot on in terms of her characterization.<br /><br />It's always Spike that "sees" what no one else sees, even though it's right in front of them. That's why he's so succesful at getting them to turn on eachother. I love how he is the only one to call Rupert by his first name. James Marsters is a master!!!Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78752751638693908142011-07-06T17:02:04.436-04:002011-07-06T17:02:04.436-04:00AEC, it has been hinted at before in Buffy and sho...AEC, it has been hinted at before in Buffy and shows up more in Angel that vampires don't lose all of their human traits or emotions when they are embraced. Gunn's sister still 'loves' him in her own demon tainted way and making him into a vampire is the demons greatest gift it can give to another.kluunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-76687310990347127232011-07-06T08:58:43.744-04:002011-07-06T08:58:43.744-04:00'New Moon Rising' is equal parts upsetting...'New Moon Rising' is equal parts upsetting and hopeful.<br /><br />I adore Willow&Oz together.<br />(They are quite possibly the cutest thing in the whole world,they beat Cute fluffy kittens any day)<br /><br />But Willow&Tara are a whole other ball game..and not just because Tara is a Woman...their love and relationship is beyond first love theirs is a true love.(Or atleast to me it is)<br />A love that even lets say amnesia can't fight.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-80986091444543299822011-07-06T08:45:56.310-04:002011-07-06T08:45:56.310-04:00"Slap My Hand Now!" Anya
(This is why I ..."Slap My Hand Now!" Anya<br />(This is why I love her,She sooo beautifully random)<br /><br /><br />I've mentioned afew times that s4 is my least favourite...and that it's because of the Initiative.<br /><br />So is it any surprise that I havn't watched 'The Yoko Factor' & 'Primeval' in afew months.Lol<br /><br />I usually just watch 'NMR' and 'Restless'.<br /><br /><br />Sooo 'The Yoko Factor' is when Spike tears the Scoobies apart by telling them half truths,Xanders apparently joining the army or atleast the girls think he should(What??Lol),Willow is too into her Wicca/New Love...that she's not the computer girl anymore(I'm sorry isn't she dicphering text on her laptop?)and Buffy is being all pushy away-y again(This one I'll give Spike because this is a Buffy trait that I dislike&it never goes away)and Giles is useless..Hugh Hefner Giles is...but Giles isn't.<br /><br />Forrest dies and Riley goes awol.<br /><br />'Primeval'<br /><br />Buffy,Giles,Willow and Xander join together to defeat Adam using the essence of the Slayer..and the result is matrix-y fun.<br />Forrest and Maggie(I thought we were done with these two crackpots) are back but horribly disfigured...Adam was playing God again..and Riley is there..Hmm..this can't end well,Riley has a chip and Momma/Big Brother Adam want him back in the fold...Riley thinks not,so he rips the chip right out of his own chest.(Ummm...YAY+Gross).<br />The Initiative gets filled in with concret...Goodbye.<br />And the Scoobies are happy to be back together.AWESOME.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-26544935594742790972011-07-06T08:03:42.580-04:002011-07-06T08:03:42.580-04:00Anybody notice that Forrest is exactly the same as...Anybody notice that Forrest is exactly the same as a zombie? Jerk.<br /><br />Poor Tara, chased down by a monster again. Does she have a target pasted on her back?Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48492607997970548332011-07-05T23:23:16.488-04:002011-07-05T23:23:16.488-04:00Anthony Robbins? I miss that dude.
Spike liked Th...Anthony Robbins? I miss that dude.<br /><br />Spike liked The Beatles. Given a chance, would he have eaten The Beatles?<br /><br />I thought Oz might have apologized to Tara (or instructed Willow to on his behalf). I guess, in fairness, he did tell her to RUN. <br /><br />Poor Oz, lying on that table, naked, getting zapped into a werewolf. "Don't tase me, bro".<br /><br />More classic rock from Giles. Drunk Giles was quite funny. I enjoyed his "bloody hell" from upstairs after Xander clues in about Tara being Willow's girlfriend. <br /><br />Riley's elite military training is no match for Angel's elite vampire training. <br /><br />A few simple instructions from Willow and Anya is able to hack the town's power grid. I love this show!!<br /><br />Adam reminds me of Desmond, calling Riley "brother". <br /><br />Maggie Walsh is re-animated and given a humongous butt. And could she please run a comb through that unruly, much longer than when she died mop?<br /><br />Kudos to Adam for impaling Forrest Grump.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48734058222810289642011-07-05T22:54:27.439-04:002011-07-05T22:54:27.439-04:00I loved the Yoko factor. Who would have thought th...I loved the Yoko factor. Who would have thought that Spike would end up so wise? Guess we get wiser with age.<br /><br />Tara does look pudgy--but who wouldn't in those wardrobe choices? That dress with the wide, light-colored band is not flattering.<br /><br />I'm busy enough racing through Buffy that I haven't been able to watch Angel, but what a cool idea to have two simultaneous TV shows so linked to each other.<br /><br />Willow has been gradually changing throughout the series: first, her clothing style has gone from preppy to long and flowy. Now, her makeup is getting heavier. <br /><br />Speaking of makeup, didn't Joyce ever tell Buffy to wash her face before bed? Her bedtime face looks freshly applied. Clogging her pores night by night.<br /><br />Tired of Riley, but remembering their first big episode was called "Doomed."Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-90587972304431393542011-07-05T22:18:17.241-04:002011-07-05T22:18:17.241-04:00New Moon Rising--Yep, it hurt just as much on the ...New Moon Rising--Yep, it hurt just as much on the second viewing as it did on the first.<br /><br />See, I love Angel. I do. But Angel is that guy in high school that was untouchable. Gorgeous, chiseled, smart, popular...The Guy everyone wanted but would never get (unles you were head cheerleader or something).<br /><br />Oz...Oz was MY guy. Average, short, stoic, sweet...The guy that NEEDED to get to know just to see what he had inside...and when you DID get in, he was perfect for you.<br /><br />We've all loved and lost and 'Bad Moon Rising' brings me back to my very first love that we just couldn't make work.<br />He'll always have a special place in my heart. Like Willow says, "You're with me, you know?"<br /><br />Ugh, heartbreaking.<br /><br />Sanctuary--<br />LOVED it! Loved Faith, loved Angel...GREAT episode!<br /><br />Blind Date--All I have to say about this one was the fight scene at the end between Angel and Vanessa was great! <br /><br /><br />SO looking forward to next week! Knowing what I know about season 5, I KNOW I'll understand 'Restless' much better than I did on my first viewing, and I can't wait for the Angel finale!Christina Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-2571783335269473282011-07-05T21:40:26.596-04:002011-07-05T21:40:26.596-04:00I started watching when Tara was already with Will...I started watching when Tara was already with Willow and Oz was gone, so I've never really been emotionally invested in O/W. My daughter, however, stopped watching when he left - then later started watching again largely for the love of Tara.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56048063966528539782011-07-05T21:37:24.329-04:002011-07-05T21:37:24.329-04:00Also, I was bummed to see Oz leave after Willow tu...Also, I was bummed to see Oz leave after Willow turned him down. I hope he isn't gone forever, he has always been one of my favorites on here!AECnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-32305928048250992302011-07-05T21:36:25.310-04:002011-07-05T21:36:25.310-04:00I have to say, I'm NOT a fan of Tara. At all. ...I have to say, I'm NOT a fan of Tara. At all. I really keep hoping she'll disappear, but that doesn't sound like it'll happen! It is good to hear that she gets better, perhaps she'll become less annoying to me over time.<br /><br />I've really been enjoy Angel so far and I loved the cross-over that happened this week!<br /><br />Oh- I did have a question from Angel. From the episode where Angel first met the kids in the gang. When the sister was turned into a vamp, shouldn't she have lost her soul and wanted to kill her brother? I was really surprised to see her trying to convince him to become a vamp also.AECnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-30526353614691576992011-07-05T20:56:54.789-04:002011-07-05T20:56:54.789-04:00The 'old boyfriend back' story is a soap o...The 'old boyfriend back' story is a soap opera standard - not surprised it's a Marti. And we get it in two episodes this week.<br /><br />I'm less than enthralled with Oz in NMR. Is he planning to say sorry to Willow anytime soon? Everything he says is all about his needs. Oz wants what he wants, Tara wants what Willow wants. Good choice, Will.<br /><br />Oz seems to have travelled a lot in what, six months? And had much spiritual training. <br /><br />The torture scenes with Oz remind me of the movie New York, where John Abraham is stripped naked and held in a cage by the FBI. It could almost be seen as a metaphor for Muslims, and Guatanamo Bay - if this hadn't aired pre-911.<br /><br />Would Oz have been so upset if Willow had been with a guy? Though he cheated and ran out - he doesn't have the right to be upset at all.<br /><br />Yeah, not impressed with Oz in this one.<br /><br />The commander says Riley isn't a good soldier because "he thinks too much." Another example of Joss vs the government/military.<br /><br />Xander's black hole sweater is - interesting.<br /><br />I wondered how Adam got out of the facility. Probably through the secret lab exit.<br /><br />How did Riley override the chip?<br /><br />That was some spell they did. It turned Buffy into her stunt double.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-7745468454154301402011-07-05T20:35:46.280-04:002011-07-05T20:35:46.280-04:00The Council, another kind of conspiracy, also show...The Council, another kind of conspiracy, also shows up during the season.Ken Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-85767993763569368862011-07-05T20:02:44.590-04:002011-07-05T20:02:44.590-04:00It has been a crazy week, and I made it here to pa...It has been a crazy week, and I made it here to participate in this Buffy discussion, but just BARELY! First, our DVD player broke, delaying the start of my viewing of this week’s episodes. We ended up just buying another player for now. (Did you know that you can get one for only $30.00? Unbelievable!) I usually start watching episodes on Thursdays, but instead, I had my very own Buffy/Angel marathon on Sunday, zooming through all 6 of them back-to-back. What with a day trip on Saturday, and the 4th of July holiday on Monday, that was the only way I was going to manage it. In the interest of saving time, I skipped note-taking, content to simply be on the same page with all y’all. I’ve at least seen the episodes, so I’ll know what you’re talking about.<br /><br />Just a couple comments. I’m so glad to be getting the full experience of Buffy AND Angel. I thought this week’s cross-pollination was wonderful. And considering how neatly tied-up-with-a-bow the whole Initiative story was, I am especially intrigued about next week’s season finale. My guess is that it will be a brilliant coda.Marebabenoreply@blogger.com