tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post2272821670698721845..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Buffy Rewatch Week 32Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1135543901707431632011-08-15T18:29:01.669-04:002011-08-15T18:29:01.669-04:00If they lived near power lines Buffy and Dawn coul...If they lived near power lines Buffy and Dawn could be next.<br /><br />Though it doesn't seem like that doctor would care.<br /><br />I almost typed Doctor. I'm such a DW fan. :)Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-27897927783846582652011-08-15T16:50:53.922-04:002011-08-15T16:50:53.922-04:00JS. "... why Joyce would have a phone. It hel...JS. "... why Joyce would have a phone. It helps with the brain issues." Didn't you want to just smack that doctor when he approached a stunned Buffy with those questions? How does it help to know if Joyce lived near power lines? How does this comfort Buffy. Bedside manner, not. And yay for Ben, rescuing Buffy from that.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-40233096822235494482011-08-14T19:09:52.836-04:002011-08-14T19:09:52.836-04:00JS
I have to admit that I had forgotten that Joyc...JS<br /><br />I have to admit that I had forgotten that Joyce had a cell phone, and I agree with you that if she didn't have one it would be easier to accept that the scoobies don't.<br /><br />Does Joyce use it often? The only distinct cell phone memory in BtVS season 1-5 is Cordelia's uber gigantic one in "Welcome to the Hellmouth", or maybe Riley with all is gagets used one onscreen, sorry my memory is failing me...lolAnnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-46283824310121796792011-08-13T23:39:11.349-04:002011-08-13T23:39:11.349-04:00I've been really busy and have turned into a l...I've been really busy and have turned into a lurker, without really sharing any of my thoughts on this season's episodes, so please excuse some of my general comments, which touch on broader things.<br /><br />I love Anya this season, but I am so confused about what she did before the Magic Shop? It's implied she had her own apartment, but how, and with what income? It's never stated whether or not she is a student or what. I never wondered about it before this re-watch, showing how she really never became "human" to me until she got a job. . .how capitalist pig is that of me? lol<br /><br />I love to hate Harmony. Gold lame pants. Unicorns. Insipid Harmony.<br /><br />People have been talking a lot about Riley and Dawn this season so I'll just add my thoughts about Glory. She's my favorite big bad. I love how she's a mirror image for Buffy (chicks with superpowers) without all the human moral ambiguity of a Faith. But, where a lot of people find her alternately fun and terrifying, I find Glory sad.<br /><br />Nikki, you have to let me know if there is already a piece of Buffy scholarship on this, but I am prepared to "write my thesis" on how Glory is a fictional portrayal of the Borderline Personality Disorder, narcissistic type. I have a close family member with this disorder and have become way more familiar with it than I ever wanted to be. So when I saw Glory on screen, her behavior and attitudes all seemed so real to me! Eerily familiar to anyone who has been in a close relationship to someone with the disorder. <br /><br />Spike totally won me over in these eps. The way he has to play comedy, intense romantic longing, jealousy, rage, caring (for Buffy and family), I was just amazed, and still am, at how he can evoke humor in one second, threat and danger the next, and pity and empathy co-mingled with all of that. It's a bit dizzying, so is it any wonder he swept this fan off her feet. . .I don't know if I'm a "Spuffy" but I love the character of Spike, not necessarily as anyone's romantic pairing.<br /><br />I am watching Angel, too, and the only thing I am surprised about so far that no one has commented on the arrival of Charles Gunn, one of my top Angel characters. I love how the enmity between him and Wesley is immediate and complete. GREAT to see Anne this week! <br /><br />I, too, enjoy Drusilla more on Angel but I agree it's because she's given more to do. Also, Julie Benz knocks it out of the park as Darla in these episodes. It's from a prior week's set, but the line where Darla and Drusilla are watching Angel and Spike fight and Drusilla makes some typical bats&*( crazy comment, and Darla says "Good point!" to Drusilla in that totally Darla-way, she just nails it. <br /><br />Missy--it's been long enough since I watched Angel (and never re-watched) to have forgotten wtf is up with Angel, too! So I'm kind of like a newbie on this rewatch and yeah, I'm so yelling at my screen at Angel, ChristinaB!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997191228899274706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-64811812963832288532011-08-13T11:49:14.026-04:002011-08-13T11:49:14.026-04:00For what it's worth, I may have been unusual, ...For what it's worth, I may have been unusual, but I didn't get a cell phone until post-911, and then it was a gift from my parents because of the relentless news about last phone calls made from the towers to loved ones. Suddenly having a phone on you at all times was seen as a necessary safety measure.<br /><br />Before that, I was more of the "I don't want to be available to people 24/7." They were just phones then, and the coverage was far from universal. Now it's hard to imagine being without one, but back then they had not become anywhere near ubiquitous.Witness Ariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640067376665953770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-27752037408879891092011-08-12T16:18:32.159-04:002011-08-12T16:18:32.159-04:00I have a soft spot for Riley, and I always cry whe...I have a soft spot for Riley, and I always cry when he doesn't see Buffy running after the helicopter. I don't think they were the world's greatest couple, but it does pull on my heartstrings!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-66574561688772034082011-08-12T12:00:28.216-04:002011-08-12T12:00:28.216-04:00@Anne
It definitely isn't conducive to drama ...@Anne<br /><br />It definitely isn't conducive to drama to have cell phones. Just like it would be a bit convenient to have super soakers full of holy water, or artillery guns full of wooden stakes mounted on every roof top. And I get your point re: guns (though they do become more prominent on Angel....and that's all I'll say about that.)<br /><br />Lots of shows have our heroes on other shows have phones, but mitigate their usefulness. They’ve got bad cell reception, lost phones, ignored phones, etc., because they are so damn convenient. So I get that. What I do not get is why Joyce would have a phone (it helps with establishing the brain issues) but Buffy, et al do not. I would feel better if NO ONE had a cell phone, then we could chalk it up to yet another unique cultural difference in Sunnydale. I think this was a miss. Joyce shouldn’t have a phone. Who does she talk to? Only the “adults” have cars, but that is a money issue. The cell phone thing bugs me.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56380343396951329742011-08-12T11:47:10.476-04:002011-08-12T11:47:10.476-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-63889078404822093872011-08-12T10:29:03.109-04:002011-08-12T10:29:03.109-04:00JS said...
My question - Why doesn't Buff...JS said...<br /><br /> My question - Why doesn't Buffy have a cell phone(at this point)? Joyce does. That may be the most unrealistic thing in the series.<br /><br />If I am not mistaken, Joss said in a commentary that he thought it would be too convinient if the scoobies had cell phones. Also we have to remember that at the time cell phones wheren't as mainstream. I think a similar reasoning can be applied for Buffy and cars = non mixy things (it would be too easy if she would drive to places instead of running (Say she would have driven after Riley, she probably would have gotten there on time...).<br /><br />However, Angel does get one in season 1 of AtS and its a running gag that he doesn't know how to use it properly, so the scoobies being cell phoneless would definately be conveninent for the sake of Buffy and friends' journey...maybe because she hasn't entered the adult (real) world yet and Angel has with his business.<br /><br />Also I think the non-use of guns is very convenient in Buffy, yet the first episode of Angel, he himself gets shot multiple times, slowing him down so guns in this world would be non-lethal but effective against Vampires.<br /><br />I guess we just have to accpet the rules and the way Joss and the writers decided to shape this fictional world, yet totally relatable world.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-90719524018798472522011-08-12T00:45:38.910-04:002011-08-12T00:45:38.910-04:00"Checkpoint" was my fave this week by a ..."Checkpoint" was my fave this week by a wide margin. Buffy's undressing of Quentin and the Watchers' Council, with the Scoobies watching from the balcony, was an honest-to-goodness BtVS moment. Pity Oz wasn't able to sit in on that. <br /><br />And, let's face it, Spike and Joyce settling in for "Passions" is pure joy. The return of Glorificus after a few eppies on the sidelines was most welcome as well.<br /><br />Riley go bye-bye. I'm not a Riley hater, but I prefer my hero chicks single. I just think pain and loneliness makes for greater viewer satisfaction. I want my heroines to suffer and still be heroines. IMO, Sydney AND Vaughn were never as good as Sydney BEFORE Vaughn (well, not necessarily before, but during those early days when they couldn't risk a real relationship). <br /><br />Happy romances give the viewer steamy bedroom scenes. Pain, suffering, loneliness give the viewer wonderful scenes like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUxxlNRANM&playnext=1&list=PLF82AC3CFF19D3220" rel="nofollow">Vaughn finding Syd at the train station</a>. It's not the same as finding her in the laundry room. And don't even start with Peter and Olivia. Yuk. So, bottom line? Riley, buckle up and have a safe trip.<br /><br />Xander gets cracked on the head by the hammer from which Olaf gets his power?? OUCH! That's sooooo gotta hurt.<br /><br />The freaking Watchers' Council, all the way from England, actually interviews Spike, a serial-slayer-killer, about Buffy's competence, but doesn't dust him when they're finished chatting. I love these guys. And they think Buffy is the one in need of a review?Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-46912865165788789202011-08-11T12:50:05.992-04:002011-08-11T12:50:05.992-04:00@JS. Good point about the cell phone. Maybe superh...@JS. Good point about the cell phone. Maybe superheroes don't need such things? It's hard to keep in mind what was going on in the culture at the time. I'm just glad we've passed the dreaded crimped hair era.<br /><br />@Anne. Loving it! At the time of airing, my son's girlfriend (now my wonderful DIL of 10 years) was really into it, but I thought it was probably too young for me. Now look. Ten years later and it's not too young at all. The themes are eternal ones. And it's really funny.<br /><br />It's hard to pick out my favorite season, but I like S5 a lot. I think Dawn was such a creative idea. And I like her. So little sister-like (yeah, I have one). And Michelle plays her well.<br /><br />I'll be on vacation soon and will miss commenting on two of what I think are the best episodes of any TV show ever. But I look forward to reading everyone's comments when I get back.<br /><br />wv: penceti - another yummy Italian dish.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-39952410369265372352011-08-10T23:24:48.386-04:002011-08-10T23:24:48.386-04:00My question - Why doesn't Buffy have a cell ph...My question - Why doesn't Buffy have a cell phone(at this point)? Joyce does. That may be the most unrealistic thing in the series.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-67467574334783841892011-08-10T22:42:54.153-04:002011-08-10T22:42:54.153-04:00Welcome Linda345 to the rewatching group. So what ...Welcome Linda345 to the rewatching group. So what did you think of the series as a whole? I have to agree with you that even after seeing it all for the first time, you always catch something you missed in the prior viewing (s).<br /><br />Gotta love Buffy.<br /><br />Thanks again Nikki and all guest reviewers for all your work on this project.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-2233641468553585652011-08-10T14:37:41.808-04:002011-08-10T14:37:41.808-04:00@JavaChick "I was sad when Riley left."
...@JavaChick "I was sad when Riley left."<br />I was neither sad nor happy, merely expectant of this ending (thanks to the episode title "Doomed"). But I do think there was bad timing at play here, among other things. All at once Buffy had a sick mother, a persecuting god, and a sister who wasn't a sister to deal with. So she turned to the people who knew her best--her friends.<br /><br />Riley's misstep was to think he could understand Buffy if only he could get the sense of her fascination with vampires. He was on the wrong track. He should instead have questioned why she relied on her friends rather than him. She shut Riley out, but not Xander, Giles, or Willow. They understood her in a way he did not. They were there from the beginning of her journey. Riley was not. He was not privy to her initial anguish over embracing her Slayer role, thereby giving up the much of her childhood. In time, he might or might not have been able to see that. But this was not the time, and I don't think Buffy was ready to settle down as much as he way anyway.<br /><br />vw: mulamb. A cross-bred farm animal.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-30750565697266249202011-08-10T13:43:02.004-04:002011-08-10T13:43:02.004-04:00Great contributions again, as usual.
Bryan, I...Great contributions again, as usual. <br /><br />Bryan, I've always thought that Riley wasn't Buffy's perfect guy (she was his first, great love, he was more of a rebound love for her) but I hadn't really thought through it that not only couldn't he be what she needed, but she couldn't be "the one" for him either. I liked the way you stated that.Witness Ariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640067376665953770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-17233766956344635042011-08-10T12:58:06.887-04:002011-08-10T12:58:06.887-04:00Stevi: Well said. I never thought of it like that,...Stevi: Well said. I never thought of it like that, but now that you say it, it makes sense. If Buffy were to go with a guy who has no superpowers and isn't a vampire, it means she could fall in love with a human guy... ie, him. It's kind of like saying, "Oh look, Alexander Skarsgard and Kate Bosworth broke up... now *I* have a chance!" but hey, let's let the boy dream. ;) (While I dream of Skarsgard.)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1067057486117169762011-08-10T12:54:38.621-04:002011-08-10T12:54:38.621-04:00I was sad when Riley left. Riley was a good guy an...I was sad when Riley left. Riley was a good guy and could have been good for Buffy, if she had let him. I do think Buffy was shutting Riley out – maybe past experience has taught her that she is better off if she doesn’t allow herself to need anyone. Riley pretty much gave up his life for Buffy – because of Buffy he found out the job he was so proud to be doing was not what he had thought. He gives it up and stays in Sunnydale...to wait around for Buffy to have time for him. I don't necessarily think he needed to be Buffy's protector, but he needed to be needed by her. I think he would have been happy with partner, but Buffy wasn't giving him that either.<br /><br />I don’t fault either one of them (though the vampire blood sucking makes me shake my head and wonder ‘oh Riley, what are you doing?’ Maybe it’s timing. Maybe they were never meant to be. But I do feel sad for their ending.JavaChickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06816858010039395389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-44799157300387592992011-08-10T12:40:48.988-04:002011-08-10T12:40:48.988-04:00Colleen/redeem147: "Xander should stop projec...Colleen/redeem147: "Xander should stop projecting. Does he really love Anya, or did HE want to chase after Riley? He even talks about him in bed."<br /><br />Xander is projecting, but I'm not sure it's in the way you think. I think he's been living vicariously through Riley. As long as Buffy could make it work with a vanilla human guy, he can hold on to his fantasy. Sure, he's with Anya, but I think he's always still wishing that Buffy would give him a shot.Stevihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783004820081256952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-69335833692931367872011-08-10T12:26:19.263-04:002011-08-10T12:26:19.263-04:00@ChristinaB
Re:Angel
We were all thinking the sam...@ChristinaB<br /><br />Re:Angel<br />We were all thinking the same thing back then.You might be confused now but how it resolves itself..will be more of a WTF moment.Angel will be his normal self soon enough.<br /><br />How'd you like seeing Anne in Blood Money?Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-61926687423795221402011-08-10T12:00:50.449-04:002011-08-10T12:00:50.449-04:00My experience of 'Into The Woods'
Is limit...My experience of 'Into The Woods'<br />Is limited to the polarizing opposites that are Buffy&Riley Breaking up and Xander&Anya finally coming together.<br />This is when any nice feelings I had toward Riley disapated...<br />He asks her to choose him over who she is as a person...who does that?<br />Why can't he just be happy being who he is...and be happy that Buffy has a place in the world.<br />He was a total jackass in that moment.<br />Ultimatums NEVER workout.<br />I heart Anya....and I love that after roughly a year Xander can finally say it too.<br />They're perfect for each other.But as the newbies are learning nothing stays copasetic for long.<br />Looks like Joyce will come out of this health scare unscathed.Right?<br /><br />'Triangle'<br />Such a fun&funny episode...this is one of the eps I just throw on to enjoy some much needed escape from the world.<br />Olaf(Ab benrubi)is a nice tie to Anya(nka)'s past....Some plump succulent babies indeed.<br />Is it only me who laughs everytime Sarah breaks into the ugly cry?It's soooo over the top.<br />Poor Tara....Poor Xander....Willow&Anya are a handful.<br />I love when Xander says "Tara's with me.Protect me, Tara" it's cute.<br />I also love this little exchange<br />Dawn: Whatcha doin'? <br />Buffy: Playing soccer. <br />Obviously she isn't.Lol<br />Willow&Anya working together ...still bitching at each other.Goodtimes :D<br />Spike being NOT subtle about what went down with Him,Buffy and Riley.<br />My Xander being used as a punching bag by Olaf...I cringe everytime Olaf snaps his wrist.<br />The entire ep is just a joy to watch.<br /><br />'Checkpoint'<br /><br />This is where my heart lies within this block of eps.I adore this episode<br /><br />The Watchers Council is BAAAACCCCKKK.(*in the voice of the little girl from Poltergiest*)<br />And with some demands and scary truths about what Glory is and can do.<br />I hate the constitution that is the Council...but I love Quetin Travers(notice Harris Yulin is sporting a goatee this ep).<br />Anya gives herself some adorable backstory,Anya Christina Emmanuella Jenkins..from South Eastern Indiana.<br />Born 4th of July...raised by both a Mother and a Father.Seriously Emma Caulfield is a comic genius.<br /><br />Glory gets a chance to explain what it is she wants and needs from our Girl Buff...and what she needs & wants makes itself part of the conversation.Even after all these yrs I tell Dawn to leave the room..yes I'm crazy,but that scene is kinda terrifying even if you can't stand Dawn.<br /><br />The cute Knights Of Byzantium showup swearing that they will Kill buffy and anyone helping her protect THE KEY.<br />Clearly that statement will end well.<br /><br />Giles "I've trained her to win" ,Yea you did ..even against scarecrow thingys.Lol<br /><br />"Big power outage in Buffy county?" One of my fav qoutes from the Slayer herself.<br /><br />Gotta love the awkward sitdown with Willow&Tara..and Nigel's misunderstood questions.<br /><br />Ben is looking shady these days isn't he?Jinx calls him SIR!!!Whhhhyyyy?...tune in next week.LolMissyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-73028515649176836242011-08-10T11:01:16.323-04:002011-08-10T11:01:16.323-04:00I meant to add how much I was tickled by Spike'...I meant to add how much I was tickled by Spike's comment to Xander. Olaf: "I want babies to eat. Do you know where I can get babies?" Spike to Xander: "What do you think, the hospital?" You'd have to see how Marsters does it to find humor in this. And then, the onion. Spike and his obsession with the blooming onion!! Hee hee. Love that Spike.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-14159410697021025012011-08-10T10:41:51.573-04:002011-08-10T10:41:51.573-04:00Oooo, Nikki, you're right. Olaf is Jerry from ...Oooo, Nikki, you're right. Olaf is Jerry from E.R.!<br /><br />I followed Buffy's frantic run toward the helicopter saying, "Please don't get there in time!" Then, like Nikki, I said "Thank you." Riley was a hottie and I liked him, but his time was up. I agree with Bryan that Riley seems to be an experiment to contrast Buffy's life from "normal" life. Riley and Buffy are too different from each other, even though they both fight supernatural creatures. Riley is a Cowboy, as we saw in a dream in Restless. Buffy is not a female counterpart to that. For Riley, he is doing his job, and doing it well. For Buffy, she accepts that she was chosen. I could imagine soldier Riley sitting around with his buddies, clicking beers, laughing about the day's adventures. Riley's an adventurer. Buffy, she just does her thing and gets it over with. I don't know that she gets that much joy from slaying. But it's true, as Ethymia says, that Buffy doesn't need any macho hero type by her side as she slays. Her assistants are not like that. They are, from any other point of view, a bunch of losers. Xander. Nerdy Willow. Stuttering Giles.<br /><br />Loved the Spike/Riley wine-sharing scene, discussing Buffy. So like guys, sitting around talking about their girlfriends.<br /><br />I was a newbie, now I'm an official rewatcher, having finished the series about a month ago. Still, even rewatching after only a month I'm picking up things. Glory is such a wonderful villain precisely because she is so beautiful. It was understandable (last week) that Giles would sell items to this woman even as he is telling the group, "Be careful. She could be anybody." Glory just looks so innocent. But she's not.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-87161448853308818052011-08-10T03:14:07.162-04:002011-08-10T03:14:07.162-04:00"Into The Woods":
Is there an english wo..."Into The Woods":<br />Is there an english word for machista? Because that's what Riley is: he wants a girl dependent on him and who considers him a priority, and, of course, weaker! I loathe him! Blackmailing ass!<br />Xander, I love you, but you're WRONG!<br />How can anyone not like Graham? He's nice, he's handsome, and he took Riley away :)<br /><br />"Checkpoint":<br />Spike & Joyce, once again, priceless!<br />I generally like Buffy, but in this episode I LOVE her! Go Buffy!Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-82548313145018099112011-08-10T01:11:33.212-04:002011-08-10T01:11:33.212-04:00WILLOW'S A DEMON??!
Seriously, Anya, I love yo...WILLOW'S A DEMON??!<br />Seriously, Anya, I love you. I wish I had a sexy ex-vengeance demon girlfriend :(<br /><br />"Checkpoint" was by far my favourite episode of this week's trifecta. It was terrifically paced, peppered with tons of big laughs, and had one of the most stellar conclusions to any hour of television ever.<br />Quoth the Xander: "That was excellent."<br /><br />Who else loved all of the neat pairings in "Triangle"? I love when TV shows pair up characters you normally don't see alone together very much, in this case the 3 pairings of Willow-Anya, Buffy-Tara, and Xander-Spike. It always makes for such interesting (and often humorous) consequences.The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-62244369687029294132011-08-09T23:50:14.634-04:002011-08-09T23:50:14.634-04:00Oh, and the "I don't get why they made yo...Oh, and the "I don't get why they made your character gay..." line in 'Blood Money'? That made me snicker. ;)Christina Bnoreply@blogger.com