tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post3331023469337140561..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: To Angel or Not to AngelNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1113753151787407082011-05-26T17:30:11.110-04:002011-05-26T17:30:11.110-04:00let me try that link again, for some reason blogge...let me try that link again, for some reason blogger cut off my comment<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_<br />Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_and_Angel_<br />episodesAECnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-59869662814945142022011-05-26T17:27:48.319-04:002011-05-26T17:27:48.319-04:00I got behind in my rewatch, so I'm working on ...I got behind in my rewatch, so I'm working on catching up now! I've never seen Angel/Buffy before this, so I'm planning to watch both shows together. I found this list on Wikipedia of all the episodes for both shows and it's in order of how they should be watched. <br /><br />Less convenient if you're using DVDs, but pretty easy if you're watching it all on Netflix like me!<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_and_Angel_episodesAECnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-36148097281171648972011-05-24T16:20:03.496-04:002011-05-24T16:20:03.496-04:00The answer is definitely "to Angel". 8^)...The answer is definitely "to <i>Angel</i>". 8^) <br /><br />I know it's a lot of TV to cram in, but first-run broadcast television (in the US, anyway) is basically on hiatus through September, and, well... Don't you want to get the full sense of what's happening in the Slayerverse alongside Buffy by experiencing yet more Whedony goodness? It's what's known as a win-win, folks.<br /><br />Here's a recommended viewing order for rewatching <i>Buffy</i> and <i>Angel</i> together, by the way, "designed for minimum disc switching" while still keeping any shared or parallel narratives in the right sequence: <br /><br /><i>http://buffyfest.blogspot.com/2009/04/buffyangel-episode-watching-guide.html</i> <br /><br />I don't have any prior experience with the fansite on which it's posted, but some friends who are far more experienced in doing <i>Buffy</i> Rewatches than myself vouch for it with a perhaps a couple of tweaks (one suggested within the list itself).<br /><br />VW: <i>plinow</i> — An insistent command from the ballet instructor.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78451569813066697632011-05-18T03:10:20.694-04:002011-05-18T03:10:20.694-04:00@Tom D.:
No, I don't hate the Matrix (although...@Tom D.:<br />No, I don't hate the Matrix (although I'm really not a fan of its two sequels) and I really liked the fight scenes there, but the entire tone and make of the film were very different to those of "Angel". I always viewed Angel (as well as "BtVS") as more down-to-earth, creature-y shows and not really as SF shows, so the Matrix-like fight scenes got me out of the mood.<br /><br />I know I'm the minority in not liking "Angel" just as much as (or even more than) "BtVS", but I still wanted to offer my opinion, for polyphony's sake.Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-43223955642586975842011-05-18T01:11:10.956-04:002011-05-18T01:11:10.956-04:00I didn't care all that much for Angel while he...I didn't care all that much for Angel while he was on Buffy. Too much whining about Buffy. Once he gets away from all of that I enjoy the brooding and practically every other aspect of the show. I highly recommend it, especially for Buffy/Whedon fans. <br /><br />I know we keep telling people to stick with these shows. I'm sure those of you who stuck with Buffy after the first season are glad you did. I would advise the same for Angel. Actually, the first season of Angel is better than Buffy's first season. But the main reason I say stick with it is because it lays a good foundation and just takes off from there.<br /><br />Its hard for me to pick between seasons 3-5. But the show arguably gets better in every season. Not many shows can say that.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15955054735802185726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-42342665549013439422011-05-17T14:20:15.324-04:002011-05-17T14:20:15.324-04:00I am way behind on the Buffy rewatch - I wanted to...I am way behind on the Buffy rewatch - I wanted to keep up, I just haven't managed it. But, my two cents...I watched Buffy and Angel together as they aired and I do think there is something to be said for watching them that way for the crossover episodes. Angel can definitely stand on it's own as great TV though.JavaChickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06816858010039395389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-75633862241382324322011-05-17T13:26:21.150-04:002011-05-17T13:26:21.150-04:00don't get me started on the Matrix-like fight ...<i>don't get me started on the Matrix-like fight scenes, especially in Season 5!</i><br /><br />Efthymia, I'm confused. Are you saying that's a bad thing, that a show has fight scenes that you'd compare to one of the greatest sci-fi action movies ever? Do you mean the fight scenes in Angel are too derivative? Or do you just think, contrary to popular opinion, that The Matrix sucked?Tom D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48789248727463936572011-05-17T13:08:14.625-04:002011-05-17T13:08:14.625-04:00I can't remember for sure how I first watched ...I can't remember for sure how I first watched the two shows. I bought the DVD sets at the same time, as they came out just as I was finishing Buffy season 3 for the first time. I think I tried to watch them alternating disks, but the tone on Angel was so different, and it took it a while to get its groove, that I think I ended up watching all of Buffy 4 first and then Angel 1.<br />IMO, Angel's cast/team really started clicking about halfway through the season (controversial opinion I believe). Then by the time of the last crossover you mentioned, 18-19, that's when the show found itself and started firing on all cylinders. <br />That said, there's some brilliant episodes before that. Tim Minear!! Welcome to Jossdom you gorgeous person you! And flashbacks. And a whole new take on the demon world that has more to do with grays and less with black and white.<br />As has been said, Angel deals with adulthood to Buffy's coming of age, and it explores a lot of really important themes. But it does so in awesome stories (minus a few S1 duds) with complex, fun characters and awesome fights and much humor. Oh, the places you'll go...Witness Ariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640067376665953770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-74485476812284409692011-05-17T11:57:03.748-04:002011-05-17T11:57:03.748-04:00karoliina: You are absolutely right!! How did I fo...karoliina: You are absolutely right!! How did I forget that? Thank you so much, I've added it in now. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-62310635327823275962011-05-17T11:32:00.839-04:002011-05-17T11:32:00.839-04:00I started to watch "Angel" soon after th...I started to watch "Angel" soon after the beginning of fourth season and kept watching them together until the "unnamed one"/"Fool for love" - after that Buffy's story got just too exciting and I didn't have time for "Angel" anymore and left it all to the end - I'm glad to read that doing so I was still following Nikki's guidlines.<br />But I think there's one more rather essential "Angel"-episode for Buffy rewatchers - the one with another unnamed character right after "The harsh light of day". Well, maybe it's not essential, but it's fun.karoliinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03760793778779686494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-73863439884657261002011-05-17T09:14:57.190-04:002011-05-17T09:14:57.190-04:00Episode one of Angel has a nice LOST surprise!!! ...Episode one of Angel has a nice LOST surprise!!! I concur with all who love this show. It is certainly a show about redemption, friendship and love. It's hard to re-watch the first couple seasons of Angel the character on BtVS after having watched Angel on "Angel". Angel the series is what made me a David Boreanaz fan and led me to one of my favorite shows, "Bones."Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-54809694650267918262011-05-17T08:59:24.459-04:002011-05-17T08:59:24.459-04:00I had no interest in Buffy (she kills vampires? I ...I had no interest in Buffy (she kills vampires? I LIKE vampires) - but I watched Angel from the beginning. I was missing Forever Knight, and here was another vampire detective show. There's some ways in which I like Angel more. A must watch.<br /><br />I did eventually come around to Buffy, but not until late season four.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-66000403578522879352011-05-17T08:45:29.619-04:002011-05-17T08:45:29.619-04:00I found a website that put in order which episodes...I found a website that put in order which episodes to watch when-Angel/Buffy. So that's what I've been doing- I watch on Netflix- so going back and forth isn't bad.<br /><br />The first season of Angel kind of reminded me of the show Touched by an Angel- except darker of course. I just started 2nd season of Angel and 5th season Buffy- so I'm a little ahead of the rewatch.<br /><br />I am loving both of these shows and am getting sad at seeing my Buffy list of episodes getting shorter.Stacynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-36388368959811558672011-05-17T04:49:41.245-04:002011-05-17T04:49:41.245-04:00Just to echo everything that has been said before ...Just to echo everything that has been said before - Angel is a must see. Like some on here, Angel speaks to me even more than Buffy (and that is saying a lot). I like its darkness but also the characters continued search for redemption no matter impossible that may seem. Also, Illyria, Lorne, countless great Buffy crossovers that I won't spoil and the character who must not be named (who most people know I adore). So much to watch but like Nikki, I urge people to watch the shows together. It was as it was intended and it makes both shows all the richer.Staceynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-24187490492963939012011-05-17T04:28:45.585-04:002011-05-17T04:28:45.585-04:00I personally never really loved "Angel" ...I personally never really loved "Angel" (perhaps because I never really loved Angel), and even if he-who-shall-remain-unnamed did get a great story and is indeed one of the best characters in the entire Whedonverse, the rest of them... I don't know; I think that turning them from secondary "BtVS" characters to protagonists they tried to make them more protagonist-like, consequently making them lose a lot of their charm. As for the rest of them, the one I instantly love didn't last very long, the other one I really liked was more comic relief than anything else, and the rest of them never felt as interesting or as lovable to me. Well, except for he-who-shall-remain-unnamed, of course! :) Plus, "BtVS" had the Hellmouth explanation, while everything happening in LA seems a bit too far-fetched, and don't get me started on the Matrix-like fight scenes, especially in Season 5!<br />Still, I did watch Angel, and I took care to watch the episode order as it was supposed to be (each Angel episode after the respective Buffy episode for the first two seasons, in the more confusing order for the next two) because I didn't want to miss anything out in the Buffyverse.<br /><br />And if first time watchers ever want to enter the Spoiler Forum, they HAVE TO watch "Angel".Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-22296980138303858892011-05-17T03:50:37.514-04:002011-05-17T03:50:37.514-04:00I may be in the minority here, but I always prefer...I may be in the minority here, but I always preferred Angel's show to Buffy's. I'm not sure why, but I once read somewhere that Joss had written that Angel (the series) was his take on Batman. I'm a pretty big Batman fan (which should be obvious, being a mild-mannered billionaire playboy cabbage by day, and dressing up as a bat by night - not to fight criminal scum, just because I like it). Now I'm a pretty big Joss fan, and Angel is why. Also, Nikki is right, that character from Buffy she alluded to who is also in Angel? Frakking mind-blowing. Some of the greatest acting you'll ever see, and the greatest arc for a character you'll see outside of Deadwood. Also, Fred is just cute as a button. Also also, Illyria made blue chicks hot before Mr My Ego Is Too Big For Titanic even thought of Dances with Wolves in Spac... I mean, Avatar.Batcabbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609077644806458692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-31699862367020179552011-05-17T02:26:02.641-04:002011-05-17T02:26:02.641-04:00For me, it's seasons 2 and 5 of Angel that are...For me, it's seasons 2 and 5 of Angel that are mindblowingly great. Really looking forward to seeing season 1 again, though.Tom D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-88592630763591922982011-05-17T02:20:49.689-04:002011-05-17T02:20:49.689-04:00first time viewer,
got my angel dvds a month ago ...first time viewer,<br /><br />got my angel dvds a month ago for this.<br />I'm going to watch as it was on tv originally.<br /><br />don't stress about not doing a post nikki ! you're doing a lot on here, what with buffy and GOT etc.<br /><br />excited !!!!!StephenCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-25512755266814440802011-05-17T00:32:46.902-04:002011-05-17T00:32:46.902-04:00I'll echo everything that's been said befo...I'll echo everything that's been said before. I love Angel. I think I might be the only one that actually prefers it to Buffy. The more serious tone they take clicks with me. And everyone needs to see Andy Hallet at least once. He plays one of the greatest, though sometimes forgotten, characters in the Whedonverse.Hunternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-53837425912950960032011-05-16T23:57:03.704-04:002011-05-16T23:57:03.704-04:00I did the simultaneous watch (BtVS 4.1, then "...I did the simultaneous watch (BtVS 4.1, then "Angel" 1.1 and so on) right through until Buffy ended. To me, it's the way nature intended.<br /><br />"Angel" is must see TV for Buffy fans, IMO. Great left-BtVS-and-went-over-to-Angel characters, great original characters, and, occasionally, welcome crossover guests. <br /><br />Also, "Angel" sported a number of faces who would soon be rocking shows like "Firefly", "Alias", "Lost", "Dollhouse" and "Chuck". Who the heck would want to miss all that?<br /><br />If you enjoy Buffy, if you're loving the rewatch, do your own damn self a favour and watch "Angel" in its entirety. You'll laugh, you'll cry, sometimes you'll laugh UNTIL you cry. But, one thing you won't do is regret your decision to climb on board the A-train.Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-67870913206586120162011-05-16T23:14:21.960-04:002011-05-16T23:14:21.960-04:00I agree Nikki! Season 3 was my favorite in terms o...I agree Nikki! Season 3 was my favorite in terms of plot and character development.<br /><br />If anything, I feel that anyone should at least watch Angel: Season 2's "Through the Looking Glass". Six words (and I think Nikki would agree with me here): "Numfar, do the 'Dance of Joy'!"<br /><br />I hope to catch up with you guys in the BtVS rewatch since I'm graduating this week. Excited to join in the fun! (And y'know, graduation too!)<br /><br />And for 'ol times' sake: WV - "cosso": what a marble-mouthed Frenchman has for breakfastNurse Brianhttp://britheguitarguy.xanga.com/noreply@blogger.com