tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post4986832062512941855..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Lost 6.05 "Lighthouse"Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger243125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-11136297683808915752011-11-30T23:32:18.442-05:002011-11-30T23:32:18.442-05:00Another outstanding performance by Matthew Fox. I...Another outstanding performance by Matthew Fox. It's a pity that no one noticed. I guess it's more important to jeer at his character for not being a traditional hero.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-41892504945072115242011-06-29T13:32:17.599-04:002011-06-29T13:32:17.599-04:00Now, the line about killing Kate, yeah, that was p...<i>Now, the line about killing Kate, yeah, that was pretty crazy. I'm just not willing to lump all of Claire's actions into crazytown.</i><br /><br /><br />That wasn't crazytown. Claire was reacting to the knowledge that Kate had her son for several years . . . without her knowledge or consent. Granted, Claire had abandoned Aaron in the jungle, but I got the feeling that she was unaware of her actions. And Claire's abandonment did not give Kate the right to keep Aaron. Claire must have wondered why Kate never bothered to find her family in Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-82098933422364737472011-04-26T19:00:12.503-04:002011-04-26T19:00:12.503-04:00So, I totally didn't see who Claire's &quo...<i>So, I totally didn't see who Claire's "friend" was going to be. I feel stupid it was sort of obvious. Why would she be SO upset about Kate raising/taking Aaron? Technically SHE left HIM, right?</i><br /><br /><br />Yes, Claire had left Aaron in the jungle. She just doesn't know it. As far as she knew, the Others had taken Aaron. I think that scene made it obvious that Claire had been infected was not aware of her own actions.RosiePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217705824689269830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-80392845480730391092010-02-27T21:36:13.806-05:002010-02-27T21:36:13.806-05:00Re: the scary thing in Claire's "baby'...Re: the scary thing in Claire's "baby's" crib... I immediately thought of "Rosemary's Baby". In the movie, the crib's netting was "black", Claire's netting was a scary dark color too. And weren't those followers "infected" too? Freaky..CBP68noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-79230463038617126672010-02-27T00:09:25.338-05:002010-02-27T00:09:25.338-05:00Just a random thought, but Desmond's mural in ...Just a random thought, but Desmond's mural in the Swan contains the image of an eye, with M SICK--could this be a hint that the island is sick? Locke said he looked "into the eye of the island" and if we take his word at face value, then we might interpret the image of the eye in the mural as being the island's. But why might the island be sick?<br /><br />Claire's concern that if anything will get you it is infection, may be a clue. Essentially the island is infected, and it is this which is causing the problems with fertility on the island. So far we've been introduced to the idea of sickness as something coming from outside and against which Desmond had been told to innoculate himself. The quarantine sign on the inside of the Swan and Arrow also comment on the idea of infection/sickness as pervasive among the inhabitants. Yet, in this season, the infection is reformulated as metaphysical, as if infection is a personification of evil which seeps into the heart destroying the individual.<br /><br />We have also seen infection as auto-disease. Cancer on Ben's spine, the appendix in Jack. Pursuing a yin-yang model of balance, the island can be said to be out of balance, and is suffering from a disease much as Ben or Jack did. In these two cases, the need of a surgeon was required to remove the infected organ or cancer. Over the course of the seasons, we have seen how Dharma has been treated as an infection, first in the Purge, and later through Locke's actions destroying physical remnants of their presence: Swan, Flame, sub, and even the Looking Glass was made inoperable by Mikhail. <br /><br />Turning to Adam and Eve, the Genesis story tells us they were living in Eden, a paradise. Supposedly, the island may have been that paradise, but if so then why are they still in it, if only in bodily form? Having eaten from the tree of knowledge, they were removed from the garden. LOST offers an other possibility, that Adam and Eve, whomever they are on the show, are casualties of the sickness/infection prevalent on the island.<br /><br />Another example of the infection is the Temple spring, which has clouded and gone murky. When we see Jacob checking it out, it remains murky, indicating the infection is still spread throughout the island. Jacob's instructions to Hurley to take Jack with him to the lighthouse was meant as an attempt to preserve two candidates who might salvage the situation. Whether smashing the mirrors is part of that process is up for grabs. But it seems part of the learning arc Jack is on. <br /><br />Returning to Claire's infection, we have to wonder how she might reconcile her claim that the Others have Aaron with the mock-up in the crib? The baboon skulled "doll" is a substitute, just as Locke/MiB is a substitute for the original Locke. But Claire can see this Locke as "her friend" and not Locke, a mistkae Jin makes. Clearly then, she can distinguish between the "doll" in the crib and the baby she beleives the Others have. But like Rousseau she is unable to distinguish the passage of time. For Claire the infection has made all time, one time. Claire, in a sense, is living what figures such as MiB and Jacob naturally perceive--timelessness. And that may be one of the clues to the island's sickness/infection, that time is off center (as Faraday noted, the light, a metaphor for time, does not distribute properly on the island). <br /><br />So if I might take a stab at an idea for the infection, perhaps in the course of bringing people to the island, Jacob introduced some group, most likely Dharma, whose actions affected or infected the island. Perhaps as Radzinsky drilled into the pocket, he inadvertantly created the infection, much as when Jack accidentally nicked the dural sac, spilling out the spinal nerves. Someone has to count to 5 and repair the damage.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474623954925835867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56883383441286134042010-02-26T23:09:30.635-05:002010-02-26T23:09:30.635-05:00Just a guess on the subject of who David's mot...Just a guess on the subject of who David's mother could be. I am voting for Gabriela, from "The Hunting Party". In LA X world, Gabriela's father may have survived his surgery under Jack's care. Jack was already in the process of divorce from Sarah. So it would be inevitable he might fall in love with Gabriela. <br /><br />Since we are following Seasons 1 and 2, the Lighthouse follows What Kate Does, so in Season 2 What Kate Did precedes The Hunting Party. So perhaps we should look into this episode to find David's mother.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474623954925835867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-64085901606077005462010-02-26T20:06:19.313-05:002010-02-26T20:06:19.313-05:00I was talking to a friend and mentioned how Clair ...I was talking to a friend and mentioned how Clair has become Rousseau. It got me to thinking, what if we are coming full circle. The Losties become The Others - another plane crash - and the cycle starts all over again. Thought it was kind of a cool ending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-81841370053738722852010-02-26T18:10:00.181-05:002010-02-26T18:10:00.181-05:00Jenn: It's like Jacob wanted the mirrors smash...Jenn: <i>It's like Jacob wanted the mirrors smashed, and he knew Jack was the only one emo enough to do it.</i> <br /><br /><br />LOL!!!!Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-83614788116107119712010-02-26T18:07:39.263-05:002010-02-26T18:07:39.263-05:00Oh my goodness! I couldn't watch the episode u...Oh my goodness! I couldn't watch the episode until yesterday—but I am finally caught up!<br /><br />Wow! What an amazing episode! I loved seeing the images in the lighthouse! I also really liked Jacob's super-blasé reaction to Jack smashing the mirrors. It's like Jacob wanted the mirrors smashed, and he knew Jack was the only one emo enough to do it. <br /><br />What if the lighthouse belongs to Smokie, and it was protected by some sort of rule? And Jacob used Jack to break it—finding the loophole, the way that Smokie used Ben to kill Jacob? That would be cool, eh? I just wonder if that's what's up because Jacob really didn't seem to care about the mirrors being broken. Hmm...I've always wondered about where that Jacob's loyalties lie: good or evil?<br /><br />@Nikki<br />I know, right? I was most shocked by Jin's manipulation of Claire.<br /><br />VW: hesome<br />When you're as handsome as He-Man, you're hesome.JennMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05754816706901976659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-18879254102186658052010-02-26T18:05:34.423-05:002010-02-26T18:05:34.423-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.JennMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05754816706901976659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56246986199226834802010-02-26T17:35:56.867-05:002010-02-26T17:35:56.867-05:00@paleoblues: I think he was there the whole time i...@paleoblues: <i>I think he was there the whole time in the “projection booth” running the whole show</i><br /><br />Oh, I like that idea.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78996224403328445772010-02-26T16:28:16.541-05:002010-02-26T16:28:16.541-05:00@Donna S. - Yeah, it's awesome! It's Zombi...@Donna S. - Yeah, it's awesome! It's Zombie Joan - Evil Blam made it :DJoan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-15324244040481116242010-02-26T16:23:24.113-05:002010-02-26T16:23:24.113-05:00Wow...I just blew up the image of Joan Crawford...Wow...I just blew up the image of Joan Crawford's icon so I could make out what it's supposed to be. Creepy!! Kinda reminds me of Claire's hideous creature-baby! Yikes!Donna S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-84707216550633975112010-02-26T15:51:06.997-05:002010-02-26T15:51:06.997-05:00Or what if Jacob and the Man in Black were actuall...<i>Or what if Jacob and the Man in Black were actually man and wife, and MiB is actually FEMALE?!</i><br /><br />I am glad you said this. I think the way MiB said "Do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?" was...well, quite sensual. As it weird as it seems. Watch it again and pretend he is saying something not as scary. <br /><br />"Do you have any idea how badly I want to snuggle you?"Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-80968882373150103952010-02-26T15:01:32.376-05:002010-02-26T15:01:32.376-05:00Absolute last ramblings from the lighthouse. (I kn...Absolute last ramblings from the lighthouse. (I knew I wouldn't be able to let it go so easily).<br /><br />Using Teebore's excellent channel analogy:<br /><br />Hurley tells Jack to tell him when he gets to 108. As the pointer passes 108 Jack first sees the “Kwon marriage temple” (Kwon is 42). Jack doesn’t tell him to stop. He sees the image of “Sawyer’s church” (Ford is 15). Jack says stop. They discuss. Hurley continues moving the pointer. When Jack takes over the pointer is down to around 37 and then goes to 23. Passing the “channels” in reverse order (42,23,16,15) Sawyer’s image is out of place and Jarah’s is missing. <br /><br />Also, they seemed to have been expecting Jacob to be there and then he abruptly appears later. I think he was there the whole time in the “projection booth” running the whole show, ie it was specifically for Jack’s benefit, the images didn’t actually have to come “in order” and they were being completely manipulated by Jacob.<br /><br />Verf: somlec ...... somlec it Hothpaleoblueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098848867397221344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-69241968890927270782010-02-26T14:21:32.359-05:002010-02-26T14:21:32.359-05:00Evan: So I have a theory on Adam and Eve that I do...Evan: <i>So I have a theory on Adam and Eve that I don't think has been mentioned anywhere yet.<br />What if they are Jacob and MiB...?<br />I don't think we have ever known for a fact that MiB is actually a man? What if that's just the forms we've seen him in. </i> <br /><br />I LOVE that you said this. I've been waiting for someone to say this, simply because in my post last week about the nature of the Man in Black (the one where I reference humanebean's post on him) I had originally written, "Or what if Jacob and the Man in Black were actually man and wife, and MiB is actually FEMALE?!" And then I erased that section of it, deciding to focus on the other part of it. And when I tried to posit that theory to my husband, he looked at me like I was a crackpot (not that he doesn't look at me that way every day). So I decided maybe that's one to store away somewhere else...Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56841507118144712362010-02-26T14:19:23.765-05:002010-02-26T14:19:23.765-05:00TM Lawrence: Great post!
Virginia Woolf’s “To The...TM Lawrence: Great post! <br /><i>Virginia Woolf’s “To The Lighthouse” is the must-read subtext for the father-son alienation and reconciliation covered in this episode, with several other tie-ins (a boar’s skull, impermanence of beauty, freewill, staring into the sea, and stream-of-consciousness story-telling) that relate to the broader texture of Lost.</i> <br /><br />Excellent catch! I'm a big fan of Ginny, but haven't read To the Lighthouse in probably 10 years, so I'll definitely have to reread it in the context of this episode! (The Waves is my personal fave.)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-70620236671452414112010-02-26T14:16:47.940-05:002010-02-26T14:16:47.940-05:00CBP68: I agree that Claire could see it was not Lo...CBP68: <i>I agree that Claire could see it was not Locke. Sawyer knew it was not Locke. Did anyone read "The Shack"? Where one could see the ultra light crystals that surrounds a person. </i> <br /><br />It also reminds me of Fringe, where Olivia can see the sparkles around a person who's from the other universe.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-71440581006506543072010-02-26T14:15:41.686-05:002010-02-26T14:15:41.686-05:00Oh, and by the way, as soon as the kids were in be...Oh, and by the way, as soon as the kids were in bed last night when we got home, and before I started unpacking, I turned on the telly and watched the last 2 minutes. It was pretty awesome. The one thing that actually struck me about it was Jin's manipulation of Claire. Have we EVER seen him pull something like that, lying to someone's face and offering to lead them somewhere that could be a trap? I don't think I've ever seen that side of Jin -- even when he was working for Paik he was just following orders.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-31719410456919372172010-02-26T14:12:21.945-05:002010-02-26T14:12:21.945-05:00After a VERY long commute back to Canada (where I ...After a VERY long commute back to Canada (where I was hit with the first real snowstorm when I woke up this morning... nice to be back...) I'm just now trying to catch up on comments left since Wed night. Whew!<br /><br />Matt: Welcome to the blog! KILLER first post! I loved some of your observations, especially on the parallels between the Miles/Hurley discussion and the MiB/Jacob one. <br /><br />Anonymous: <i>I would've thought that if they had to give him a kid they would name Jack's son Geronimo</i><br /><br />Geronimo Jack's son. HAHAHA!!! That made me laugh out loud. <br /><br />verif word: "praysi" What Kate had better start doing if Claire gets anywhere close to her.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-83487112806596809212010-02-26T14:08:58.484-05:002010-02-26T14:08:58.484-05:00@JS & Teebore: My comments came just before fi...@JS & Teebore: My comments came just before finally going to bed last night. Just as my head hit the pillow it came to me, too. There must be a mini laptop computer in the center of the "compass" that projects powerpoint presentations up onto the mirror (or as you suggest something to that effect). I can live with that. Then the geometry and geography wouldn't make any difference. <br /><br />I still wonder if it was "programmed" just for Jack's benefit or if anyone who went up there would be able to pull in their "channel". And why Jack went all bonkers thinking he's been "watched" by Jacob just because he saw an image of his house.<br /><br />Thanks for the input. Now I can relax (and try to figure out how the island moves or could sink or be volcanic or how parallel universes could exist, etc, etc.)<br /><br />Verf ...dialogin: signing in with a rotary phonepaleoblueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098848867397221344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-75407623932563776592010-02-26T13:22:26.739-05:002010-02-26T13:22:26.739-05:00I think that the sixth season is heading towards a...I think that the sixth season is heading towards a final confrontation between Jack (recruited or chosen, as you prefer, by Jacob) and Sawyer (recruited or chosen by not-Locke) as a means to decide who is to become the island's keeper. They have been primed for this confrontation for a long time and now Juliet's death has definitively turned Sawyer against Jack. Until now, they both tolerated each other, not anymore. Now Sawyer hates Jack and will not hesitate to kill him. They are the kings of the black and white pieces of the chessboard, and all the other current inhabitants of the island, and all the people who have arrived there in the past (the Black Rock sailors, the Nigerian drug dealers, the Rousseau expedition, the Dharma Initiative folks, the Widmore gang...) are pawns in this deadly game between Jacob and not-Locke. Pawns are irrelevant, sometimes a good chess movement requires the sacrifice of a lesser piece. All of them are being manipulated in this game of strategy. Who will win in the end and retain the island (and maybe Kate as his queen)?Xellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738776702522991110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-89170098444127678182010-02-26T10:46:14.547-05:002010-02-26T10:46:14.547-05:00Little late to the party, but just wanted to throw...Little late to the party, but just wanted to throw in my two cents.<br /><br />LOVED it when Jack found Shannon's asthma inhaler. This was a callback to last summer's Comic Con when Jorge Garcia asked Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof about what was or wasn't going to get answered by the show's end, and Jorge said we never found out about Shannon's asthma inhaler. Sawyer didn't have it...so where did it go?<br /><br />I love that Carlton and Damon, who wrote this episode, acknowledge what was a silly question and actually addressed it in the show. Hilarious.Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-84990888401961061082010-02-26T09:56:31.476-05:002010-02-26T09:56:31.476-05:00@The Leonard's:
I thought it was just a loo...@The Leonard's: <br /><br />I thought it was just a loose stone, lighter in color than the cave wall (so it could be used like chalk) and not an actual piece of chalk, but I could be wrong. <br /><br />@paleoblues: <i>Was the whole idea of the lighthouse just an illusion for Jack’s benefit? Someone please tell me it was so I can stop trying to figure out how the darn thing works. </i><br /><br />I can't tell you it was just an illusion definitively, but my take on it was similar to JS's: that it worked less like a "real" lighthouse would and more like a TV that was broadcasting images onto the mirrors. The numbers were like TV channels: turn to channel 4, watch Locke, channel 23, Jack, etc. <br /><br />So, you know, a magic lighthouse. <br /><br />At least, that was how I rationalized it so I didn't also go crazy trying to figure how it could possibly work like a regular lighthouse. :)Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-16293584097931629022010-02-26T08:51:39.004-05:002010-02-26T08:51:39.004-05:00@JS - yeah, I meant 'if Charlotte was dead'...@JS - yeah, I meant 'if Charlotte was dead', not 'was NOT dead'! And since we didn't see her buried if her body could somehow have been used or infected. Thanks for correcting me. I just deleted the comment cuz it sounded too crazy! I can't watch iceskating and read about LOST!TiaSabitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15256692449213421359noreply@blogger.com