tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post7762981359944730959..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Buffy Rewatch Week 33Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-25813865788642664732011-08-22T07:07:47.555-04:002011-08-22T07:07:47.555-04:00Busy Week.
'Blood Ties'
BEN IS GLORY!!!!...Busy Week.<br /><br />'Blood Ties'<br /><br />BEN IS GLORY!!!!!<br /><br />Lol that reveal was so disorienting the first time.<br />But it's one of my fav things now.<br /><br />'Crush'<br /><br />DRU is back in SunnyD!!!!YAY<br />And Spike gets mindf**k by the 3 women in his life.<br />I <3 Spike.<br /><br />'I Was Made To Love You'<br /><br />I HATE WARREN!!!<br /><br />I feel BAD for Katrina(I really like her)<br /><br />And my god after TED I never thought I'd love a Robot as much as I ADORE April.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-36243187056360883842011-08-21T01:55:53.338-04:002011-08-21T01:55:53.338-04:00@Nikki: I write my notes as I watch, and it didn&#...@Nikki: I write my notes as I watch, and it didn't occur to me that occasionaly I may need to specify which moment in the episode I'm referring to.<br />So, I was talking about everyone's overreaction to Spike's declaration of love BEFORE he chained Buffy up. They have every right to be very upset with him after that event, of course...Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-81765213460411868122011-08-18T23:27:09.445-04:002011-08-18T23:27:09.445-04:00I realize that sometimes less is more, but I kinda...I realize that sometimes less is more, but I kinda like it when big stuff happens on screen. On "Fringe", Charlie Francis was killed by a shape-shifter and doggonit, it should have happened on screen, or at least on surveillance footage. <br /><br />So, here we have Buffy breaking the news about Dawnie being The Key, and we don't get to see it, don't get to see that WTF look on the Scoobies' faces. Oh well, what's done is done.<br /><br />"Blood Ties" was my fave of the week. So much to love about that eppie: the whole Dawnie/Spike relationship, Spike with the bent box of chocolates lurking outside the Summers house as is his new normal, the ease with which Dawn convinces Spike to help her break into the Magic Box, Spike doing his nails, Dawn finding out the truth, Ben morphing into Glory. It's just all good.<br /><br />I've got a hate on for Warren so IWMTLY is not a tough one to sit through, especially being the 3rd of 3 episodes for the week. One thing I noticed in that episode is that April dresses like it's July, while Buffy dresses like it's, well, April. <br /><br />Dawnie 'remembers' Ted. Monks. Thorough.<br /><br />Spike's woman troubles with Dru, Harmony and Buffy were not his finest hour. I feel his pain, but can he really be so strategically challenged?<br /><br />Giles's final words to Joyce were simple, but very appropriate: "Bye, Joyce".Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-41152395375963135132011-08-18T12:33:08.766-04:002011-08-18T12:33:08.766-04:00@Nikki: Most hardcore fans of long-running televis...@Nikki: <i>Most hardcore fans of long-running television shows can rattle off their favourite seasons, in order, from best to worst. And whenever I’m asked to do that, I always begin, “Season 2, followed by season 5…”</i><br /><br />I know I've been absent of late, and I apologize if you've already made this clear elsewhere, but I love that you put season 5 second on that list. It's probably my favorite season, overall (it's the most superhero-y/comic book-like, and the season that initially sucked me in to the show). Even though I'll freely admit other seasons may be <i>better</i> (based on slightly more objective principles of criticism and whatnot),I love season 5, and it's nice to see that someone else, especially you, holds it in high regard as well, cuz it seems to get unfairly maligned by fans and critics.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-17054397902437554592011-08-17T19:55:08.108-04:002011-08-17T19:55:08.108-04:00I need to read Hunchback of Notre Dame again. I ju...I need to read Hunchback of Notre Dame again. I just remember hating Phoebus and the cleric who 'raised' Quasimodo, who I loved. And crying at the end.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-50063927532568204962011-08-17T13:47:12.384-04:002011-08-17T13:47:12.384-04:00@COLLEEN/REDEEM147: Nope, never seen the series be...@COLLEEN/REDEEM147: Nope, never seen the series before. I caught about 4 Season 4 episodes back when they originally aired, but that's it. So every week I'm super-anxious, and I cannot WAIT for "Once More With Feeling", which I've heard is nothing short of mesmerizing.<br /><br />@DELVIN ANARIS: Right, I forgot about Anya's secret alias! LoL thank you!The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-25027614294743326332011-08-17T12:49:10.312-04:002011-08-17T12:49:10.312-04:00Efthymia: Your comment made me LOL because it'...Efthymia: Your comment made me LOL because it's true; we all watch that scene and think they're SO mean to Spike, after everything he's done for them. <br /><br />But then I try to imagine a guy chaining my best friend to a wall and saying, "You either tell me that you love me or I'm going to sic a monster on you who will murder you in cold blood." And I realize I probably wouldn't be very friendly to him the next day, either. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-49599230810722181582011-08-17T12:23:34.403-04:002011-08-17T12:23:34.403-04:00"Blood Ties":
Ben turning to Glory - I d..."Blood Ties":<br />Ben turning to Glory - I didn't see THAT coming!!! (at least not during my first watch). Sad, because Ben seemed quite likable.<br />Giles' exasperation with Xander is always fun to watch :)<br /><br />"Crush":<br />Spike is just adorable! "Do you want it to be?"<br />What never ceases to surprise me in this episode is that the one who's actually right is Harmony...<br />I occasionally feel guilty for liking Spike as much as I do, but it goes away pretty fast.<br /><br />"I Was Made To Love You":<br />I miss Oz too :(<br />Maybe it's because I, as a viewer, love Spike so much, but I think they're crueler to him than they should. I mean, the guy said that he loves her, not that he wants to murder her family!<br />I think this episode is a very good metaphor for spousal/partner abuse: the woman is made to believe that she is worthless without her husband/boyfriend, and that she is responsible for his behaviour and if she is patient and forgiving the abuse will stop and everything will be OK (but it won't...).<br /><br />Regarding ranking the Seasons:<br />Personally, I definitely consider Season 3 to be my favourite, but for a while Seasons 2, 5 & 6 tied for the second spot. I decided that I probably rank Season 2 a bit higher, because it's the original gang, and Oz (♥), and Spike is introduced, and they're still in high-school, and because of the lack of Dawn and Riley, but Season 5 & 6 still fight each other for the third place; every time I watch each of these seasons I say "Well, THIS is the one I like best".<br /><br />@Colleen/redeem147: Well, I'm not sure Quasimodo LOVES Esmeralda, and even if he does, it doesn't redeem him from not caring the least bit about all the other people he kills. And it has nothing to do with him being ugly, because Phoebus is supposed to be gorgeous, but I find him one of the slimiest and most horrible fictional characters ever.Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-18184051693301433382011-08-17T10:47:37.133-04:002011-08-17T10:47:37.133-04:00@Batcabbage: That was perfect! LOL@Batcabbage: That was perfect! LOLMarebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-63739737632136858322011-08-17T10:17:33.110-04:002011-08-17T10:17:33.110-04:00QuestionMark: "Mom... Mom....?
Mommy?" ...QuestionMark: "Mom... Mom....?<br /><br />Mommy?" <br /><br />I don't think another line has ever slayed me like that one. In one word, Joss Whedon demonstrates how, when you lose your mom -- whether you're 16 or 66 -- you revert to feeling like a child again. An orphan, no matter how old you may be. For me, my sobs were in part anticipating the next episode, but also anticipating that word.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-45023743861004866802011-08-17T10:15:57.200-04:002011-08-17T10:15:57.200-04:00ChristinaB: Um... YES... it's, uh... TOTALLY s...ChristinaB: Um... YES... it's, uh... TOTALLY safe to, uh, like Gunn. Yes... go ahead. No... really. <br /><br />OK, I'm just messin' with ya. I don't want to say for sure one way or the other, but I will say Gunn was someone I wasn't sure about in the beginning and then he grew on me quickly. And I'm glad he did. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-67315765958068519262011-08-17T09:52:56.311-04:002011-08-17T09:52:56.311-04:00Nikki muttering at scary shipper panel:
Scary Shi...<i>Nikki muttering at scary shipper panel:</i><br /><br />Scary Shipper: Nikki, what do you think? Who's side are you on?<br /><br />Nikki: N'uma beth. En ie' tanya nat'! <i>(runs)</i>Batcabbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609077644806458692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-16426555143997056372011-08-17T09:17:28.481-04:002011-08-17T09:17:28.481-04:00@Lisa(ufn): Thanks for the reminder about Dru and ...@Lisa(ufn): Thanks for the reminder about Dru and her dolls. I had COMPLETELY forgotten about that.<br /><br />@JS: LOL at inconceivable!Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21756002762976402982011-08-17T09:00:23.728-04:002011-08-17T09:00:23.728-04:00Question Mark asked:
"QUESTION: Did Anya adop...Question Mark asked:<br />"QUESTION: Did Anya adopt a last name when she became human, or is she just Anya, like Cher?"<br /><br />The former, which was revealed in Checkpoint in last week's rewatch. "Anya Christina Emanuella Jenkins, born on the fourth of July, and don't think there weren't jokes about *that*!"Delvin Anarishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03350343562075300893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-47165691897345358522011-08-17T07:49:56.401-04:002011-08-17T07:49:56.401-04:00Question Mark - have you watched the whole series?...Question Mark - have you watched the whole series? :)<br /><br />Fab is a cutie, though. A Canadian cutie at that.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-81433105615297221522011-08-17T02:24:47.864-04:002011-08-17T02:24:47.864-04:00P.S.- To all the Spuffies and Bangels out there:
S...P.S.- To all the Spuffies and Bangels out there:<br />Scott Hope all the way :PThe Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56419081720896894782011-08-17T02:24:18.237-04:002011-08-17T02:24:18.237-04:00Both "Buffy" and "Angel" ended...Both "Buffy" and "Angel" ended on such intense cliffhangers this week!<br /><br />First we've got poor Joyce. That haunting image is going to hurt me forever, but what hurts me even more is Buffy saying "...Mommy?" in that quiet, terrified voice.<br />Then, over in L.A., we've got Cordelia about to enter mortal danger, Kate almost literally at the end of her rope, and Angel getting his...happiness.<br />Next week is gonna hurt, isn't it?<br /><br />Quick thoughts:<br /><br />-"Happy Anniversary" is possibly my favourite "Angel" episode so far. Lorne is my hero.<br />-Angry Giles = TERRIFYING.<br />-At the risk of sounding as bad as Warren, I've gotta say: April is one sexy robot.<br />-Glory: (realizing she's been teleported thousands of feet above the ground) "Oh, sh-"<br /><br />QUESTION: Did Anya adopt a last name when she became human, or is she just Anya, like Cher?The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-86039400143664591412011-08-16T23:51:57.191-04:002011-08-16T23:51:57.191-04:00First, Buffy--
Blood Ties: I love Spike's rel...First, Buffy--<br /><br />Blood Ties: I love Spike's relationship with Dawn. He's so good with her. He's like a sweet big brother...with fangs! <br /><br />Crush: I love this episode. I love Spike in this episode. 'Nuff said. ;)<br /><br />I Was Made to Love You: Right after watching this episode, I wrote on Nikki's Facebook wall, "It's bad when you cry at the end of an episode because you're anticipating the next episode, right?<br />I think next weeks rewatch might just slay me...again."<br />Thanks, Nikki, for letting me know I wasn't the only one, and that it's not a bad thing. ;)<br /><br />Angel--<br /><br />Boy, do I feel silly. I JUST realized this week who Anne is! I had NO idea last week that Anne was ANNE! Sheesh!<br /><br />Okay, it's about time I said a little something about Gunn.<br />I've been avoiding mentioning him for a reason.<br /><br />I WANT to like him, and secretly, I DO like him..but I'm TERRIFIED to like him because of what Joss did to Doyle!<br />Someone please tell me that it's safe to like Gunn? <br /><br />Happy Anniversary: "And the British boy? He's going to be playing a HUGE...."<br />Ahhhh! A huge WHAT?! When?!<br />Damn you, Lorne (who I really, really love)!<br /><br />The Thin Dead Line: Kate annoys me. <br /><br />Reprise: I LOVED this episode. It was brilliant!<br />I loved watching Wesley with Virginia and just as I was thinking, "It's so nice to see Wesley happy.", BAM! She breaks up with him! <br /><br />I'm really not a fan of Lindsay. I don't like that bit of the story at all. <br />I'm hoping it gets better.<br /><br />I haaate where Angel is right now! So dark and just plain mean! <br /><br />The scene in the elevator with Holland? Perfection. I loved that scene...the doors open and...!<br />Sheesh!<br /><br />The end! Angel! Darla! Nooooooo!<br /><br />I think I might be the only one NOT looking forward to next week.<br />On the first watch, I could barely see through my tears during The Body. I don't think it's going to be any easier the second time around. :(Christina Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-7082649980563951112011-08-16T22:39:55.126-04:002011-08-16T22:39:55.126-04:00Marebabe, I'd think Glory smashing up Xander, ...Marebabe, I'd think Glory smashing up Xander, Spike,and almost killing Dawn would constitute a pretty bad birthday! To quote Season 4 Buffy: "You could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it would still be the bestest Buffy birthday bash in a long while" :)<br /><br />Anya totally is adorable at the birthday party. I have a four year old and she pretty much acts the same way at birthday parties, which is so spot on for a new human who has probably never attended or had their own birthday party. I also love Giles' throwaway line "I'm pretty sure I wasn't" (thinking that he wanted it)<br /><br />I know I can't believe Buffy was oblivious to Spike's feelings for her. I thought it was pretty obvious at the end of Fool for Love, ya know? <br /><br />Colleen/redeem: I have wondered the same thing about thick old Ben--why does he give Buffy his phone number, does he really think he's going to have a normal dating life? I guess we don't know what his "deal" is and the whole Ben is Glory is Ben thing is pretty confusing. <br /><br />I know "I was made to love you" is sort of a throwaway episode in many ways, but April really touches me, and I always tear up at her death, regardless of what happens afterward. I once had a boyfriend break up with me in a rather traumatic fashion that sort of called to mind the events of this episode (not that I was crazily following him across state lines knocking on doors in the middle of the night, but he did that incredibly rude method of just not ever contacting me again in the hopes that I would get the message, which, I did, but. . .RUDE!) So I guess this one really hits me in the heart. Warren is just such an unforgivable pig.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997191228899274706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48097265813094981892011-08-16T22:21:13.027-04:002011-08-16T22:21:13.027-04:00TomWill and Marebabe: I'm really looking forwa...TomWill and Marebabe: I'm really looking forward to discussing that episode with you next week. I hope it had the same impact on you as it did on me at the time. I've got a LOT to say about it. <br /><br />I also forgot to mention (thanks for reminding me, Marebabe) about the fact that we see Ripper again this week. It's not the last time we'll see him this season.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-68538196268344036822011-08-16T22:10:29.996-04:002011-08-16T22:10:29.996-04:00Marebabe - I'm with you - After "I was ma...Marebabe - I'm with you - After "I was made to Love You" I could not do anything until I saw "The Body". <br /><br />When it was first broadcast I can't imagine the anguish of waiting a week after that cliff-hanger. <br /><br />Looking forward to next week's discussion.TomWillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871121276027540139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-10094893590056905482011-08-16T21:46:20.161-04:002011-08-16T21:46:20.161-04:00Oh, and I have been watching, but not yet rewatchi...Oh, and I have been watching, but not yet rewatching, Angel. Just finished season five last week. Season 2 is my favorite, after Season 3.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-47039782683760078682011-08-16T21:38:49.603-04:002011-08-16T21:38:49.603-04:00I agree Nikki that each episode flows into another...I agree Nikki that each episode flows into another almost seamlessly. Most of my comments for this week are too spoilery to put here since SO MUCH of what we see will be important later (n00bs, you'll just have re-watch to know what I mean...). Suffice it to say, Joyce was just too happy to not have anything happen to her.<br /><br />Warren is a dick, and Katrina is annoying. They’re so good together.<br /><br />Sadly, there was only one superlative I noticed for Glory - your inconceivableness - which immediately brings to mind Vizzini (played by Wallace Shawn) in The Princess Bride – in-con-THEIV-able!<br /><br />Thank you for pointing out that while Buffy was with April while she died, Joyce died alone. I hadn't noticed that juxtaposition before. And that's why we re-watch together.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-20072575144115916692011-08-16T20:59:52.404-04:002011-08-16T20:59:52.404-04:00@Marebabe said: "Apart from the camera move ...@Marebabe said: "Apart from the camera move and horror-movie music, I could see nothing at all creepy about the doll in the overhead bin on the train. And then the story veered sharply away from the train-murder mystery. (Dangling plot thread #1 for this week.)"<br /><br />Mystery solved: All of that was for us as viewers to realize that it was Drucilla who was the vamp who killed all of those on the train. She must have taken the train from L.A. Do you remember Dru's dollies way back when we first met her and she was talking to them and telling them that they were "bad" and covering their eyes up with ribbon? So...mystery solved. Dru's back and she ate a train full of Sunnydale visitors or returning Sunnydale residents. The conductor was desert. I love bats*@# crazy Dru.Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-52495489488160730382011-08-16T20:33:59.164-04:002011-08-16T20:33:59.164-04:00The introduction of the Knights reminds us that we...The introduction of the Knights reminds us that we rarely hear of God on Buffy - gods, yes, crosses, churches...<br /><br />At first Anya seems greedy at Buffy's party - until I realized that she's probably never had a birthday party. Possibly never a birthday present.<br /><br />That cake had REALLY think icing.<br /><br />Dawn keeps a diary - like Harriet the Spy.<br /><br />Xander is still wearing some sort of bandage on his wrist - nice continuity, if a still too quick healing.<br /><br />I like the contrast of Spike in neutral brown so that when he puts back on his black we know he's EVIL!<br /><br />Vampirism in Crush is a drug metaphor - Spike is hanging out with the good kids, when someone from his old crowd drags him back into the darkness. It was previously used as the same metaphor with Riley.<br /><br />I don't have a zoom on this DVD player. Is the railroad worker reading Captain America? Cause that would be funny.<br /><br />Tara is wrong about Quasimodo - he's the only one who really loved Esmeralda and tried to protect her. She's being very judgmental about non-pretty guys.<br /><br />When Spike mentions Buffy he pulls out a ciggie - stress much?<br /><br />James gets to sing a wee little bit. Yay! Recently his band has gotten back together and they're working on a new album.<br /><br />After the 'date' Spike is crying again.<br /><br />'Spoik'!<br /><br />Dru calls Angel 'Angelus'. She doesn't see a difference (and she has reason not to.)<br /><br />What's up with Willow's scarf? Was she bitten by a vampire? Trying to cover it up?<br /><br />Spike has some of Angel's drawings of Buffy in the crypt. And Sarah's head shot.<br /><br />Poor Spike must be sick of arrows.<br /><br />I like Joyce's Wonder Woman spin.<br /><br />Am I the only one April reminds of Sarah Palin?<br /><br />The first time I saw Nick Brendon at a convention, a bunch of pre-teen girls found out Xander was in the hotel and went knocking on all the doors looking for him late into the night (they had to move him to another hotel.) April reminds me of those girls.<br /><br />Ben gave Buffy Glory's number? How stupid is he?<br /><br />Spike, meet Ripper.<br /><br />Katrina is clearly unconscious - but she walks to the bench. April squashes her solar plexus, but she holds her throat. You can hear something pop, but she seems to run around okay.<br /><br />Buffy's nicer to the robot than she is to many sentient beings. When Spike is knocked unconscious trying to fight Glory, Buffy mocks him for it.<br /><br />Was I on that Spuffy vs Bangel panel?Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.com