tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post8396549858563013923..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Slayage! Part FourNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-59490560823600869552010-06-18T13:32:09.802-04:002010-06-18T13:32:09.802-04:00At the last Slayage, Joe Valezquez presented in th...At the last Slayage, Joe Valezquez presented in the same Firefly panel as I did. He took a similar approach in his paper there, by looking at how two opposing characteristics combine to make something new. It was fascinating. It was one of those presentations where, at the beginning, you think the ideas are crazy, but then he completely wins you over. Plus, he was incredibly kind to me; I was really nervous because it was my first conference presentation, and he reassured me that my work was good and important(as panel chair, he had requested that we send him our papers in advance so he could prepare questions to jumpstart the conversation).<br /><br />His panel was at the same time as mine this time, so I appreciate your report on it!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12224748072789873249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-63997152383850625262010-06-18T12:12:43.784-04:002010-06-18T12:12:43.784-04:00Patemanesque - hmmm, it could catch on!Patemanesque - hmmm, it could catch on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-46552135719538731532010-06-18T11:49:42.994-04:002010-06-18T11:49:42.994-04:00RE: the comics.
Being a huge Buffy fan and a hug...RE: the comics. <br /><br />Being a huge Buffy fan and a huge comic book fan, I thoroughly enjoy the comics (some stories more than others, of course). I'm <i>terribly</i> far behind in all my monthly comic reading, but am vaguely aware of what's happened in the Buffy comics I haven't read (I know who Twilight is, for example, and am reserving judgment as to how I feel about that twist until I read the actual material that reveals it). <br /><br />The art took awhile to grow on me; I've seen Jeantes art elsewhere and liked it in other books more, but over time, I've come to appreciate it on Buffy. His Xander is a little non-distinct, but I really like his Buffy. <br /><br />@Nikki: <i>The ANGEL comics, on the other hand... bah.</i><br /><br />Ditto. At first I was excited to find out what happened in the wake of the finale, but then, well, I guess I just didn't end up liking what happened after the finale. Plus, the art didn't do much for me, and my appreciation of it never grew, and finally, I just ended up getting bored and stopped reading it.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-46465115114649852692010-06-18T10:38:32.730-04:002010-06-18T10:38:32.730-04:00redeem and Batty: You know, I'm actually a rea...redeem and Batty: You know, I'm actually a really big fan of the comics, and I say that as a non-comic book fan (not that I don't like that, I've just never gotten into many aside from Sandman, Cages, and Y). The dialogue is great, and there are moments where I marvel at how much it feels like I've really returned to the show. Then again, I'd give ANYTHING for a return to Buffy and this gives me something. It's not live-action, but with the actors all being 7 years older than they were when Buffy ended, it's getting more and more difficult to imagine that movie they've talked about so much. <br /><br />The comics aren't perfect: I'll admit it lost me on a few arcs. But the Wolves at the Gate arc was GORGEOUS. Twilight, not so much. I wasn't a fan of what that was all about at all, and it just seemed to go a little haywire. Not a big fan of Predators and Prey, either (and I think they've milked the Harmony thing a little too much for my taste). I won't give details because I don't want to spoil, but there are revelations about the characters that are consistent with who they were on the show, yet they don't mar the show for me at all. <br /><br />The ANGEL comics, on the other hand... bah. I LOVED the way Angel ended, and to have Wesley trapped in this building wandering around, and to know how things ended, and from what I've heard there's an Illyria/Spike thing? Uch. That just bugged me. I don't care how good they are; that show ended perfectly and I wanted to keep it right there. But Buffy left me wanting more, and the comics have given me that. <br /><br />It's worth it just for the Dawn/Xander dialogue alone. Yes, I said it. THE DAWN DIALOGUE. Seriously, the comics have almost redeemed her for me.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-43446306157616187892010-06-18T10:34:18.538-04:002010-06-18T10:34:18.538-04:00Batty: It was my own fault, really... they gave me...Batty: It was my own fault, really... they gave me several options of times where I could be interviewed, and I chose that one, not realizing it was at the same time as that paper. Sadness...<br /><br />I forgot to mention that the people filming the documentary didn't actually film any of the papers, which I thought was disappointing. You're at an academic conference on Buffy working on a documentary about Buffy and academia... why not actually film a few of the papers just to show what Slayage is all about and the level of scholarship that exists? It was a little odd. The featured speakers were in this glorious auditorium that would have looked amazing on film. But perhaps it was simply a location issue, and technically would have been a headache to lug all that equipment around.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1124809586756519722010-06-18T10:32:21.568-04:002010-06-18T10:32:21.568-04:00Solomon: I think Lorna is onto something, for sure...Solomon: I think Lorna is onto something, for sure. And I was saying when I was at the conference that I think a lot of academics might shy away from it because, if film is at the top of pop culture studies, and TV is vying for attention, comics are SO far down the hierarchy it makes sense that they're overlooked. Not to mention, if you talk about TV in the historical context of other TV shows, then a true understanding of comics might lead scholars to think you need to know the history of comic books, which is a very long and complicated one, and one where you REALLY have to know what you're talking about or you'll be called out as a charlatan immediately.<br /><br />That's why I think Season 8 has to be treated as an actual season, and not necessarily as a comic; you can address the fact they're comics, to talk about the artwork and the fact that the actors aren't actually playing these roles anymore, but when discussing the storyline, you can discuss it the same way you would the show.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-32784736056801044942010-06-18T10:19:24.647-04:002010-06-18T10:19:24.647-04:00@redeem: As a casual Buffy fan who's read the...@redeem: As a casual Buffy fan who's read the comics (Batkitty, an ardent Buffy fan, gets them, and I read them when I get my monthly comics), I'm interested to know what you don't like about the Season 8 comics. I've had issues with the art, and some elements of the story (the only arc I really liked was BKV's Faith/Giles arc - I could be biased there with BKV, though :), but I'd be interested in what a real Buffy fan thinks of them (Batkitty, who is a real Buffy fan, can take them or leave them. She likes the fact that there's new Buffy, but isn't overly excited by the story, especially the latest arc). Only if you don't mind, though.Batcabbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609077644806458692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-2160204471805707672010-06-18T09:54:39.860-04:002010-06-18T09:54:39.860-04:00Maybe it's because the comics aren't very ...Maybe it's because the comics aren't very good? (I say this as a big comic book fan.)<br /><br />The panels on sexuality sound very interesting. <br /><br />I do find it difficult (perhaps as a straight woman) to understand how Buffy can have sex with a woman, enjoy having sex with that woman, and be straight instead of bi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-20637575767764405932010-06-18T09:53:20.759-04:002010-06-18T09:53:20.759-04:00Holy crap, I can't believe they interviewed yo...Holy crap, I can't believe they interviewed you during the Joss/Neil paper!!! How incredibly interesting would that have been??!! I'm currently investigating how I can get the cash to go to Sydney to see Neil read one of his unpublished stories at the Opera House in August (I think it's August). The man who created Morpheus, Neil Himself, will be actually reading a story never told before in my country. I may have to sell a kidney. Anyone seen Anthony Cooper around? :)<br /><br />Loving the Slayage reports, Nik. Keep em coming!<br /><br />vw: croplens - a device used to decipher the hidden meaning of crop circles.Batcabbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609077644806458692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-17538042824702974982010-06-18T09:43:41.045-04:002010-06-18T09:43:41.045-04:00I'm with you on the dearth of season 8 present...I'm with you on the dearth of season 8 presentations. Lorna Jowett's theory on it is that Dollhouse was such a big deal that it wound up overshadowing the comics. I also think that part of it is that comics are a different medium than the scholars are used to dealing with,and require a somewhat different set of tools than they may be used to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com