tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post1231480228169200364..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Buffy Rewatch Week 15Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-28898348615531487162011-04-26T10:49:25.115-04:002011-04-26T10:49:25.115-04:00Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the most viewed series...<a href="http://buffy-the-vampire-slayer.otavo.tv/" rel="nofollow">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a> is the most viewed series in 2008. And still I am hooked up with this show.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131113554485921895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-44084865612615122422011-04-17T10:32:08.194-04:002011-04-17T10:32:08.194-04:00Damon might want to bring up the last season of Be...Damon might want to bring up the last season of Beauty and the Beast. ;)Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-83808735160395368402011-04-17T00:15:28.505-04:002011-04-17T00:15:28.505-04:00OT: regarding the "Game of Thrones" entr...OT: regarding the "Game of Thrones" entry, I've been noticing that George R.R. Martin and Damon Lindelof have been <a href="http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/tv-news/george-rr-martin-damon-lindelof/54030" rel="nofollow">having a public pissing match</a> of late, having to do with the ending of "Lost".<br /><br />Public pissing matches are, after all, the spice of life, aren't they?Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-82402020490263130972011-04-16T15:27:26.052-04:002011-04-16T15:27:26.052-04:00Becky, I don't think there's anybody else ...Becky, I don't think there's anybody else like Spike. :) Of course, I'm a biased James fan...Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-42763357302746740302011-04-16T10:29:12.884-04:002011-04-16T10:29:12.884-04:00I may be a bit late to the party but I have to say...I may be a bit late to the party but I have to say how much I loved these episodes, especially The Wish. I love alternate universes and this one was definitely one of the best I have ever seen. Vamp Xander and Willow were amazing and it was great to see a completely different side of Willow, though a little creepy!<br />The only thing I was a little, not annoyed, but surprised about was why Cordy was killed off so early in the episode. It didn't seem right as I thought it would be all Cordy centric. Having said that, it was still amazing and the final slow-mo scene was breathtaking. I had to rewind it and watch it again-several times!<br /><br />Now being a newbie I do have a query about vampires and about Spike. Are there different types of vampires? We have the mindless and seemingly idiotic ones that usually attack buffy in the graveyard, the clever ones, Trick and Darla, and the really psychotic ones like Dru. Then there is Spike. I don't understand why he is so emotional and as if Angel only feels love and emotions because his soul has been restored, then how can Spike feel any emotion? Every other vampire doesn't seem at all like him. So is the difference in vampires 'personality' due to how they were m, or age or is it just random and I'm just over thinking it all?<br /><br /><br />Being from the UK I had no idea about SATS so thanks for the explanation Tom.D!<br /><br />@the question mark<br />I am a huge Smallville fan so I second this, James Marsters is amazing in Smallville, and he also appears in Torchwood if any Doctor Who fans are interested. <br /><br />Xander's personality change also really annoys me. He can be sweet and funny and really heroic. Then the next minute he acts like a complete jerk. I really love his character but this constant back and firth of nice Xander and jerk Xander is really confusing! Unless he has a split personality...hmmm that would be an interesting storyline!Beckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-68148934471342568812011-04-16T10:14:15.944-04:002011-04-16T10:14:15.944-04:00Interesting facts Missy, could i ask you why you c...Interesting facts Missy, could i ask you why you can't rewatch revelations?<br /><br />sorry i'm just curious, call it human nature<br /><br />You can answer in the spoiler thread if you don't mind answeringLiznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-79405776491238442572011-04-16T07:19:30.492-04:002011-04-16T07:19:30.492-04:00That was meant to be
MEANINGFUL *
Fun Fact
Chari...That was meant to be <br />MEANINGFUL *<br /><br />Fun Fact<br />Charisma Carpenter fell onto a piece of rebar(A pool was being remodeled) when she was a young child ,So they made an effort to make this rebar go into the same spot so the scar you see is legit.<br /><br />Exact same they did with James' eyebrow scar (he was mugged in NYC afew yrs befor getting the role of Spike on Buffy).Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-68617946929011122262011-04-16T06:54:59.801-04:002011-04-16T06:54:59.801-04:00'Revelations' & a s4 episode that shal...'Revelations' & a s4 episode that shall remain nameless are the only two eps I can't rewatch.<br /><br />'lover's Walk' is Great<br />and the funeral fakeout annoys me still(12yrs after the fact)<br /><br />'The Wish' is an all time fav ep of mine(and the entire fandom)<br />In light of recent events,everyones deaths are meaning full.<br />VampWillow & VampXander kill Cordy.<br />Oz kills VampWillow.<br />VampXander kills Angel<br />Alt-Buffy kills VampXander.<br />and The Master kills Buffy a la 'Prophecy Girl'.<br />Also Anya is one of my fav characters EVER. :)Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11352179063117525571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-53700893371312006722011-04-14T07:25:59.379-04:002011-04-14T07:25:59.379-04:00@Anne, your explanation for why Buffy feels alone ...@Anne, your explanation for why Buffy feels alone and has a hard time telling her friends and Giles about Angel makes a lot of sense. That darn Xander! (I do love his character, though.)<br /><br />@EBeth To The Power Of?,I have been considering watching Dr. Who for awhile (I have seen a couple of episodes) and now between you and Nikki recommending it, I may just have to give it a solid try. Just what I need -- another t.v. show to watch! ;)Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-1275664531830161452011-04-14T00:10:20.743-04:002011-04-14T00:10:20.743-04:00colleen/Redeem: regarding Cordelia's injury an...colleen/Redeem: regarding Cordelia's injury and recovery, you know they make a point of saying how it missed everything, so if all it needed was a series of stitches then she very well could have been back at school the next week. I had an abdominal hernia repair this summer requiring three separate layers of stitches around my belly button and was up and at 'em in 2-3 days. With large painkillers of course, but week 2 she'd definitely be back at school. <br /><br />I agree. Mmmm, vamp Xander. . .<br /><br />Tom D. explained the SATs pretty well, but I wanted to add that it would be possible for Xander to score that low because the SAT deducts fractional points for wrong answers, so that means if you don't know the answer and guess "c" you can actually end up losing some of the correct points you earned answering questions correctly. I, like Buffy, did well on the SATs despite my mediocre GPA, so some people just test well, but I've often wondered if she could have done so well when there were so many scenes showing her as someone who struggled with vocabulary and basic academic skills. She would at least have to be strong in those areas. I actually teach standardized prep now so I find this topic disproportionately fascinating;)<br /><br />Suzanne--I'm also a big scifi fan and think The Wish is one of the best alternate universe eps I've seen. But I (like Nikki) am watching Dr. Who for the first time and really enjoyed one that I just saw from Season 2. It's no "The Wish" though:)<br /><br />The Question Mark: I'm with you on Willow/Xander. I wasn't feeling the love, I just wanted to smack 'em both.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05997191228899274706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-81408012275021448622011-04-13T19:05:42.238-04:002011-04-13T19:05:42.238-04:00Also, Willow's confounded expression while Spi...Also, Willow's confounded expression while Spike pours his heart out to her = My Highlight of the WeekThe Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-32089028163754034592011-04-13T16:12:25.409-04:002011-04-13T16:12:25.409-04:00Suzanne said:
why Buffy hid her knowledge about A...Suzanne said:<br /><br />why Buffy hid her knowledge about Angel from the others and why she felt she needed to do that. I wish she hadn't! I often feel she doesn't trust Willow and Giles as much as she should.<br /><br /><br />To me this is why Buffy keeps everything to herself in the begining of the season. In my opinion, Buffy thinks she can't go to Giles because of what Angeleus did to him (killing Jenny, torturing him), she knows she would only give him pain and he would probably not understand her feelings for him. Also she can't go to Xander because like she says in "Dead man's party" he made his feelings for Angel pretty clear and she knows he would not be supportive and probably be mean to her (make her feel guilty for what Angelus did). Finally, i think she would have gone to Willow if Xander would not have lied to her because throuhout season 2 she showed nothing but support for her twisted and complicated relationship with Angel. However, When Xander gives her "Willow's message" she thinks that now even Willow wants Angel dead now so in her mind everybody is against her and nobody understands what she is going through.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-43279744786428453212011-04-13T15:48:33.449-04:002011-04-13T15:48:33.449-04:00if anybody is interested on potentialcast.blogspot...if anybody is interested on potentialcast.blogspot.com they have a contest in wich you can win the complete Buffy series all you have to do is send a picture of yourself dressed in the Buffy 90s fashion<br /><br />all the details our on the website<br />our you could join the facebook group<br /><br />Good Luck all<br /><br />thks again Nikki for orginising thisLiznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-40693768942966355272011-04-13T13:08:01.210-04:002011-04-13T13:08:01.210-04:00As soon as I heard Magic Shop Lady's voice, I ...As soon as I heard Magic Shop Lady's voice, I thought it sounded familiar, and then BOOM! It's Hurley's fake psychic! Good thing she didn't ask Spike what kind of animal he was, or he might have REALLY flipped. <br />That ending with Spike driving off into the sunset really cemented him as a great, classic character :) For those of you who aren't familiar with the world of "Smallville", that show is worth watching if only to see James Marsters' AMAZING performance as the evil alien Brainiac.<br /><br />The whole Xander/Willow love-a-thon really didn't sit well with me. They both have such great boy/girlfriends, and then they go & ruin it all. Crazy lustful teenagers. :PThe Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-15607417916312178152011-04-13T12:58:05.492-04:002011-04-13T12:58:05.492-04:00As Nikki mentioned last week, this is an excellent...As Nikki mentioned last week, this is an excellent string of episodes that we watched this week. I hadn't remembered that they followed one another in the way they did from my first time watching them. I remembered loving "The Wish" and "Lover's Walk," but I had very little memory of "Revelations." I found it to be a fascinating episode and even watched it twice in a row since my hubby didn't get to watch it with me the first time. I enjoyed the surprise of finding out that Gwendolyn Post was the villian very much since I hadn't remembered that, and the episode leads up to in a way that is very surprising. I also enjoyed seeing the relationship between Buffy and Faith a lot more this time around. One question I always have about this episode, though, is a nagging feeling about why Buffy hid her knowledge about Angel from the others and why she felt she needed to do that. I wish she hadn't! I often feel she doesn't trust Willow and Giles as much as she should. Now, Xander is another story; I can see why she would feel the need to cover up when dealing with him and his extreme reactions to things.<br /><br />Of course, being the huge Spike fan that I am, I adore "Lover's Walk" for all of the reasons mentioned already. Spike's relationship with Joyce illustrates his strong human side so well and his need for human relationships of all sorts in a way that we don't see other vampires displaying. However, the writers also do a great job of drawing a fine line between the funny adorable moments we see of Spike and the truly terrifying moments when Willow appears to be in great danger of him seriously harming or even killing her. As soon as we begin to become complacent about Spike, we are quickly shown how dangerous his evil side can be.<br /><br />"The Wish" is simply incredible! I am a big Sci Fi fan, so I have seen many types of parallel universes in my day. This is one of my all-time favorites. Vamp Willow and Vamp Xander cannot be beat, especially Vamp Willow.Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56103114090564553682011-04-13T12:43:35.211-04:002011-04-13T12:43:35.211-04:00@Colleen/redeem 147, you asked the following:
Bu...@Colleen/redeem 147, you asked the following: <br /><br />Buffy tells Spike that he's 'not famous for keeping his promises' - but he did help her against Angel. Is it because he left before the end of the final battle?<br /><br />I asked the same question when watching it with my son (who catches everything and remembers well with his 10-year old mind), and he reminded me that Spike promised that he and Drucilla would leave town if Buffy helped him overcome Angelus never to return again. My son pointed out that he had not kept his promise by coming back to Sunnydale.Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-10010430809215896722011-04-13T12:36:50.177-04:002011-04-13T12:36:50.177-04:00Marebabe: Yes, without spoiling anything, Anya is ...Marebabe: Yes, without spoiling anything, Anya is a vengeance demon. Her job has been to go through the centuries finding scorned women and helping them wreak vengeance. That was her goal in this episode, but Giles screwed it up by smashing her necklace. <br /><br />Colleen: Yes, the actress playing "Gwendolyn Post, Missus," is indeed Kristen Scott Thomas's sister. <br /><br />Tom already answered Marebabe's other question: As he said, Giles has mentioned a group of Watchers, and if they haven't been mentioned already, then yes, they are the Watcher's Council. It seems strange at times to think there's an entire council of people to watch the Slayer, when there's only supposed to be one Slayer in all the world. Hm. But considering the expiry date on former Slayers was pretty short, they perhaps need various Watchers to keep sending out into the field. As we know with Faith's Watcher, they can be killed pretty easily. Good thing Giles has that whole Ripper thing goin' on. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-13496674678347086232011-04-13T10:53:42.448-04:002011-04-13T10:53:42.448-04:00Colleen/redeem asked: Now that people have explain...Colleen/redeem asked: <i>Now that people have explained SATs to me, can they explain what a good score is? Is Willow's for one subject and Buffy's for everything?</i><br /><br />At the time these episodes aired, the SATs consisted of a verbal section and a math section. A perfect score on each section was 800, so a perfect total score was 1600. (They've changed things since then.)<br /><br />Willow got a 740 on the verbal section -- this is good for a normal person, but weak for a very smart person like her.<br /><br />Xander remarks that Willow's 740 closely resembles his total score. This pretty much has to be hyperbole on his part: as I recall, it would have been almost impossible to get a total score that low.<br /><br />Buffy's 1430 is damn high for someone whose grades have repeatedly been mentioned as not being very good (though likely still lower than Willow's total score, even with that 740 verbal). I guess Buffy's intelligence is of a sort that deals well with standardized tests but not so much with high school classes.<br /><br />Incidentally, I love Xander's joke about how he's going to lose all credibility as a stud when people find out he's dating a brain (Cordy), and her grinning retort that she knows how to cover these things up.Tom D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-82054203236494395562011-04-13T10:30:59.685-04:002011-04-13T10:30:59.685-04:00Sorry, I attributed something Ms. Post did to Xand...Sorry, I attributed something Ms. Post did to Xander. Well, neither of them are very nice in this episode. ;)Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-11720331678162620822011-04-13T10:25:05.765-04:002011-04-13T10:25:05.765-04:00Marebabe,when Giles finds Anyanka in one of his bo...Marebabe,when Giles finds Anyanka in one of his books, I'm pretty sure he mentions she's a demon and grants revenge for wronged women.<br /><br />I have a lot of comments for these episodes, but most are spoilery.<br /><br />I think Revelations may have been the first Buffy episode I ever watched a few scenes from. I was at a church women's meeting, and I got bored and wandered into the family room of the house where the kids were watching this episode. (It was near the living room - I wasn't casing the joint or anything.) Even so, it's one of my least favourites. This may be why it took me a while to watch more Buffy. And is that fake watcher Kristin Scott Thomas' sister?<br /><br />Faith comes up to Buffy in the Bronze and says "We're just good friends" - and the femslash writers go wild.<br /><br />Buffy says, "Another Tuesday night in Sunnydale" - which is the night the show aired.<br /><br />Giles is generally an insightful man, but he distrusts Angel when he's okay, and trust Gwendolyn when she's not. He's as good as checking creditials as Sunnydale High is.<br /><br />Xander manipulating Faith to use her as a weapon is another disturbing thing he does. He says that Buffy's "blinded by love" - the one thing that Faith doesn't believe in.<br /><br />Of all the bad stunt doubles the Faith one is the worst. <br /><br />Now that people have explained SATs to me, can they explain what a good score is? Is Willow's for one subject and Buffy's for everything?<br /><br />Spike has a nice voice. James should join a band. ;) (Actually, Ghost of the Robot has reformed, and they're working on an album.) On that musical note, James told my daughter that when he swung the big candlestick, he was trying to recreate the cover of The Clash's London Calling.<br /><br />I love Buffy using the piece of Giles' camping equipment to check out her hair.<br /><br />Spike is pretty wasted in this episode. How much alcohol does it take to get a vampire drunk?<br /><br />If the Mayor knows about Spike, it's pretty fair to assume that he knows about everything paranormal going on in town.<br /><br />I love watching James' curls try to escape from his gel. I'll never understand why he (and not just Spike) prefers it straight.<br /><br />Buffy tells Spike that he's 'not famous for keeping his promises' - but he did help her against Angel. Is it because he left before the end of the final battle?<br /><br />Angel knows how to push Spike's buttons - he says Dru "is kind of fickle" when he was the one having the affair with her in the previous season.<br /><br />I love the end of LW when it looks like Oz is playing the music on the soundtrack, but he puts down his guitar and you see he isn't.<br /><br />I'm I the only one to look at the demon at the beginning of Wish and think "Hey, Cthulu!"<br /><br />Cordy had a bar stuck through her body and she was back to school the next week? Is she secretly a Slayer? It's obviously giving her more pain than she lets on, but still...<br /><br />Since when are vampires attracted to bright colours? Do they mean mosquitos?<br /><br />Another sound track trick - I love how Angel moans after the blackout and you think the scene was over.<br /><br />While the Factory is action packed, Giles actually saves the day in the comfort of his own dining room.<br /><br />Sorry, Angel fans, but vamp Xander is definitely the hot one. ;)<br /><br />Okay, I had a few more non-spoilery comments than I though.<br /><br />I'm late posting, btw, because I was out at an excellent reading last night by Rob Shearman, writer of the Dalek episode of Doctor Who.Colleen/redeem147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-25985180804625439002011-04-13T04:08:14.866-04:002011-04-13T04:08:14.866-04:00"Revelations":
In Season 1, Sunnydale is..."Revelations":<br />In Season 1, Sunnydale is described as a very small town, but if it actually was that small, wouldn't its population have died out by now? It has 12 cemeteries! What, new people keep coming to the town-where-everyone-dies-a-horrible-death? Anyway...<br />Willow is SO sweet! "I" statements...<br /><br />"Fool For Love":<br />Spike AND the Mayor! :)<br />The scene between Spike and Joyce is simply magical (and the subsequent teasing of Angel)! Spike is indeed a quite different vampire.<br />Cordelia's "I fell" makes me think that it's not just a statement for what just happenned; she fell in love with Xander and then she fell from the delusion of what she thought of her relationship with Xander, and then she literaly fell.<br />Having watched LOST -where ANYONE can die at any moment- before BtVS, I thought Cordelia had really died and I was (briefly, thankfully) shocked.<br />Buffy and Angel are presented as this great love, but out of the 3 couples (them, Xander & Cordelia, Willow & Oz) they are the one I care about the least.<br /><br />"The Wish":<br />I believe this was the first episode where I reaised that I don't just like this show, I LOVE it!<br />I feel so sad for Cordelia... She has no friends.<br />Do the ones who are most innocent become the most psychotic vampires (Drusilla, Willow)? Could it be that the demon inside lets all the repressed negative feelings, thoughts and behaviours loose, or is it just the contrast that makes these cases look worst?<br />Those final moments in the alternative Sunnydale, with the music, and the voice-over and the dying always gives me goosebumps! Even just thinking about it gives me goosebumps! This is TV at its best...<br />I wish there was a commentary for this episode! It would have been great.Efthymianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-19890133850354758092011-04-13T00:29:04.663-04:002011-04-13T00:29:04.663-04:00Marebabe asked: Have they mentioned the "Coun...Marebabe asked: Have they mentioned the "Council" before?<br /><br />In Faith, Hope & Trick, Giles talks wistfully about how he has never been invited to the annual watchers' retreat in the Cotswolds. That never made any sense to me, but at any rate it does strongly imply the existence of an organization of watchers.<br /><br />We also previously heard about Kendra's watcher, Mr. Zabuto, but I can't remember if the Council was specifically mentioned in relation to him.Tom D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-92008165681717632162011-04-12T22:04:12.270-04:002011-04-12T22:04:12.270-04:00I remember knowing that Cordelia wasn't dead w...I remember knowing that Cordelia wasn't dead when I watched "Lover's Walk," because I knew she was later on "Angel." Still, I can imagine how shocking that must have been for viewers at the time! Almost as cruel as a few certain jokes the writers play come season 6!<br /><br />I heard that Joss's original vision was for the Big Bad to be a vampire every season, and that the original Big Bad for season 3 was going to be Mr. Trick. Is this true, does anyone know? I'm so glad they took the show in the not-just-vampires direction instead, because it opens the door for so many great Big Bads down the line!Sara D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10606662259351890237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-33977736370449782322011-04-12T21:33:58.871-04:002011-04-12T21:33:58.871-04:00That Buffy got to stake Xander was very satisfying...That Buffy got to stake Xander was very satisfying in light of the way that Xander treats her like crap every 5 minutes. Maybe a stake in the ribs of real Xander every now and then would provide some much needed attitude adjustment.<br /><br />Giles drives the same junker in the Buffyless Sunnydale. <br /><br />Spike hasn't changed clothes since he left Sunnydale with Dru. But he has changed his hair.<br /><br />Boobies hanging on the wall of the Magic Shop. Were they magic boobies?<br /><br />Buffy calling Giles, Jeeves? I love it.<br /><br />Giles saying "better world" makes me think of the assassin in "Serenity". Good on Giles to follow up on Cordelia's claim that he was supposed to be Buffy's watcher. Watcher muscles, indeed.<br /><br />How did dark Buffy get to Sunnydale so fast? Giles only placed the call a minute earlier.<br /><br />Puppy's chains weren't very restrictive. Seems to me he could have throttled vamp-Willow with ease.<br /><br />The Mayor practicing his putting with The Masters thingy was very timely, with The Masters being contested this weekend.<br /><br />"The Wish" was the highlight of these 3 episodes for me, but I loved seeing Spike again (and benefiting from his relationship wisdom), and I always love when BtVS brings the emotional pain as it did in "Lover's Walk".Page48https://www.blogger.com/profile/09728079057077761364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-6370049923038048502011-04-12T21:16:19.107-04:002011-04-12T21:16:19.107-04:00Really loved this set of episodes. The Wish was r...Really loved this set of episodes. The Wish was really powerful as the relationships we have come to love and rely on are gone. It really evoked sadness for me, and the realization that I really do care about these characters. I will be looking for ways to work in "bored now" into conversation. <br /> I loved Spike and I have to agree that his line about being love's bitch was great. <br />And I screamed at the television with the fake out funeral. I love Cordy! I felt so hurt on Oz and Cordy's behalf. <br /><br />I keep watching ahead (just watched The Initiative) so I have a tough time keeping track of what I am not supposed to know yet. I'll have to work on that.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.com