tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post2535138376016793533..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Lost "The Incident": The CommentsNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-89788883083693640512009-08-23T17:45:48.299-04:002009-08-23T17:45:48.299-04:00I have a half theory on Jacob's enemy's lo...I have a half theory on Jacob's enemy's loophole:<br /><br /> This "theory" only works if Jacob's enemy is the Smoke Monster (Smokey), and he has been inhabiting not just Locke's body, but other "dead" people on the island too. (Christian, Yemi, Alex). Lets just pretend that is true.<br /> When you think back to all of the other people Smokey may have inhabited, there is a similarity. All of their bodies were missing.<br /> When Jack finds Christian's coffin, it's empty. When Eko is looking through the Nigerian plane just before Yemi appears to him, Yemi's body is gone. We never really learn what happened to Alex's body, but we certainly don't ever see it again.<br /> Whereas with Locke, his body is lying on the beach while Smokey, who is inhabiting him, is convincing Ben to stab Jacob.<br /> <br /> It's not really a theory, but I just thought it was kind of cool.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17453402951700283278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-11916829696077763232009-05-31T20:44:00.987-04:002009-05-31T20:44:00.987-04:00http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/taweret.ht...http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/taweret.htm<br /><br />In this summary of Tawaret, towards the bottom, it mentions that Tawaret was the consort of the god of evil Set and she kept him from doing evil by keeping him in chains. Could the incident be responsible for releasing him from the chains --hiding in the temple and becoming the smoke monster? If Tawaret's statue/Tawaret was destroyed then that could be why there are fertility problems after the incident as well?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-39162205942706743672009-05-20T22:10:37.551-04:002009-05-20T22:10:37.551-04:00Are you feeling Lost without Lost tonight? (I know...Are you feeling Lost without <I>Lost</I> tonight? (I know I am). Well, my brilliant sister, AchingHope, has written a fake episode to follow up the season finale. I've posted it up on my blog so please stop by and check it out. If nothing else, it should make you laugh (and maybe go a tiny bit toward easing that Lost sized hole in your Wednesday/Thursday).<br /><br />sonshinemusic.blogspot.com<br /><br />I'm going to stick this on a couple threads, cause I don't know who's reading what anymore...Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-85632485255433446492009-05-20T10:44:48.753-04:002009-05-20T10:44:48.753-04:00@Nashville Beatle:So was Ben just play acting when...@Nashville Beatle:<I>So was Ben just play acting when he was thrown against the wall?</I> <br /><br />When Ben is talking to (I think) NotLocke, he says that he was just as surprised when things went flying around the room. So he was taken aback and he did actually see the same telekinetic display that John did.Rebecca T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11994380364321336824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-59490648602932584222009-05-20T10:30:40.532-04:002009-05-20T10:30:40.532-04:00@brodal: for me, this is relatively simple to expl...<B>@brodal:</B> for me, this is relatively simple to explain, as I see it at least. The main point is that Vincent and Rose exist in 1977 while the leash was found in the future (2007/2008) with the outriggers.<br /><br />Possibly, the bomb makes everyone come back to a specific time to 2007, around Jacob's death presumably. They raid the camp and Vincent escapes his leash.<br /><br />When Sawyer's group skips to the future (<I>The Little Prince</I>) they find the camp raided, Vincent's leash and the outriggers. My guess is that this flash from <I>The Little Prince</I> happens after Jacob is killed and after everyone flashed back to 2007 after the bomb detonates (if this is what really happens).<br /><br />When everyone comes back, some people find the outriggers, raid the camp for food (and beer) and Vincent also manages to escape his leash. So Juliet could have shot anyone really, from Richard or Ilana to Jack or Kate and event Ben or Locke. We'll just have to wait...<br /><br />8 FRAKKING MONTHS!Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-77036534589649705372009-05-20T10:15:02.970-04:002009-05-20T10:15:02.970-04:00quick question-Rose had Vincent's leash in her...quick question-Rose had Vincent's leash in her hand and when the left behinders found the beach camp while they were flashing they found the leash at the camp...is there any significance to this? How did it get to their old beach camp from Rose & Bernard's place?brodalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18259617454589699732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-77742524902907044482009-05-19T20:42:31.429-04:002009-05-19T20:42:31.429-04:00Out of all the millions of things I loved in this ...Out of all the millions of things I loved in this episode - I loved Ben. Michael played that final scene perfectly, and for the first time ever I actually felt for him... he was only looking for some sort of explanation, and he got nothing at all... he finally realized he was just another pawn in the grand scheme of things. Masterfully done, it's going to be a trying hiatus...Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-86172735671563302802009-05-19T19:28:14.473-04:002009-05-19T19:28:14.473-04:00Good God, I can't believe I didn't realise that Ja...Good God, I can't believe I didn't realise that Jacob was a Jackie Treehorn thug! The Big Lebowski is one of my top 5 favourite movies!<br /><br />Jacob/Thug: (holding up a bowling ball) What the @#$% is this?<br /><br />The Dude: Obviously you're not a golfer.<br /><br />Classic!Batcabbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609077644806458692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-57903598295601181502009-05-19T16:34:00.000-04:002009-05-19T16:34:00.000-04:00@Severd Cord: Nice parallel!
This is just a nitpi...<B>@Severd Cord:</B> Nice parallel!<br /><br />This is just a nitpick of mine: but Islam has only existed for just under 1400 years. The 'several thousand' concept is erroneous.<br /><br />Again just a nitpick, neither a criticism nor something personal. As I said, I like the parallel you brought up.Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-79695808037081390482009-05-19T16:20:00.000-04:002009-05-19T16:20:00.000-04:00I just wanted to post a comment regarding the whol...I just wanted to post a comment regarding the whole Jacob and Esau thing and although I have not gone through all the comments I have been following your site for a while and love your incite. This is a real pertinent issue in the world today and I think if you anyone were to look at the whole Jewish/Christian Muslim conflict over the last several thousand years and the present conflict that world faces you will see that this birth right and so called "chosen people" ideal is a large part of that and I for one think that the writers for Lost are tapping into this. This is a real issue today.<br /><br />Keep up the great Work.Severed Cordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650439131699075888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-20734773744990856592009-05-19T15:32:00.000-04:002009-05-19T15:32:00.000-04:00Thinking back: in the scenes between Not-Locke , B...Thinking back: in the scenes between Not-Locke , Ben & Jacob in the finale, Ben states that he has never SEEN Jacob, not that he has never spoken to him. If he'd never seen or heard Jacob, how would even know to go to the cabin in the first place? <br />Possibly, Jacob's nemesis, seeing a weakness in Ben has been in contact with him pretending to Jacob. <br />And what was Richard doing when this was happening?<br /><br />Richard: Where you going Ben?<br /><br />Ben:I'm off to see Jacob.<br /><br />Richard: Why you sneaking off into the forest? Jacob lives in the heal of an ancient egyptian statue.<br /><br />Ben: I'm not going to his his beachside condo, I'm going to his holiday home.<br /><br />Richard: (latin swear word deleted)The Shoutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21560880573253325662009-05-19T11:54:00.000-04:002009-05-19T11:54:00.000-04:00Nashville: I'd COMPLETELY forgotten about him in L...Nashville: I'd COMPLETELY forgotten about him in Lebowski!! THAT is where I know him from other than Dexter. Thanks for that! <br /><br />Ben was faking it when he was talking to Jacob, I think. But I think he might have been legitimately thrown against the wall, and that's why there was such a look of shock and horror on his face. He thought he'd put on a little play, but he didn't realize that there really WAS someone in that chair who could throw him back, and when he did, that's why Ben suddenly looks really scared in that scene. <br /><br />That's just my take on it.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-53741920533780843312009-05-19T10:18:00.000-04:002009-05-19T10:18:00.000-04:00What did people think of casting Mark Pellegrino a...What did people think of casting Mark Pellegrino as Jacob? I had heard about it for several weeks and I wasn't too sure if it would work. That said, I thought he was great; although, not what I was expecting. I have been a fan of Mark's ever since he played Jackie Treehorn's thug in the Big Lebowski. <br /><br />what was the dude in the rocking chair at the cabin all about then? So was Ben just play acting when he was thrown against the wall?Nashville Beatlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15468527491790624665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-43721884858313477872009-05-19T09:00:00.000-04:002009-05-19T09:00:00.000-04:00If the real Locke is apparently dead and the fake ...<BR><I>If the real Locke is apparently dead and the fake Locke is Jacob's adversary, then why doesn't the faux Locke already know where Jacob's home is?</I><BR>For the same reason the fake Locke is feigning surprise at other things he knows: So as not to tip his hand. Granted, he could claim to have Complete Island Knowledge, including Jacob's home, if he didn't think that would make Richard suspicious, but he needs Ben and clearly wants the rest of the Others there too, so maybe he figured this course of action was best. That may not be a completely satisfying answer, but we don't have all the context yet.Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-89226745169033945272009-05-19T08:58:00.000-04:002009-05-19T08:58:00.000-04:00@Nashville: That's a question that remains to be a...<B>@Nashville:</B> That's a question that remains to be answers. The loophole comment by Jacob certainly suggest it is him.<br /><br />One could think that the real Locke did not know, and since he has to get someone else to kill Jacob, he must pretend he does not know.<br /><br />Just a thought!Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-27673387962655831862009-05-19T08:45:00.000-04:002009-05-19T08:45:00.000-04:00If the real Locke is apparently dead and the fake ...If the real Locke is apparently dead and the fake Locke is Jacob's adversary, then why doesn't the faux Locke already know where Jacob's home is? Doesn't make sense because the adversary is shown with Jacob at the statue at the beginning of the episode.Nashville Beatlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15468527491790624665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-62913182887703205912009-05-19T03:03:00.000-04:002009-05-19T03:03:00.000-04:00Who else saw the CSI season finale? I only got to ...<BR>Who else saw the <I>CSI</I> season finale? I only got to it last night, and... Libby! Jacob!<br /><br />I don't remember who first posted that the whispers could be echoes (or actually, bleed-through) from other times, HB, back when the time-skipping started happening, but it was a good notion -- and yeah, parallel realities would explain them too.<br /><br />The whole membranes-between-dimensions being thin and accessible on certain parts of the Island is good thinking, SM. I like where you took my hypothesis. <br /><br />How cool would it be to glimpse alternate histories of our gang, especially to see whether Oceanic 815 <I>not</I> crashing would be A Good Thing! What was it Desmond liked to say? "See you in another life..." <br /><br />Could we get Ch<I>aaa</I>lie back if the standard timeline was reset by the explosion? Prob'ly wishful thinking... We've known since before this season began that while Claire would be sitting out Emilie de Ravin would be back as a regular next year, and yet "Darlton" said nothing about Dominic Monaghan -- though since his character's confirmed dead, it could just be a surprise until call sheets and IMDB blow it. I expect we'll get a couple of guest appearances from him at least, if only as a vision of Hurley's or in a flashback, what with it being the final season. <br /><br />As I've said before, other than Rose and Bernard, the only 'ship I cared about was Charlie and Claire, and it'd be nice to see them reunited somehow, if not in the <I>next</I> life, as a happy couple at the end, appearing to Hurley and smiling like the ghostly trio at the end of <I>Return of the Jedi</I> (how appropriate), then possibly in an <I>alternate</I> life, even one only briefly glimpsed. I realize that the shortened season doesn't give us lots of playing room, as Sonshine noted, but I'm not counting out a trip through possible alternate timelines.<br /><br />I didn't think about the young John Locke's drawing of Smokey until you brought it up, Hisham, which is why I'm so happy to be a part of this group. And despite concerns over the time commitment, I'm really looking forward to rewatching the whole series, but some family visits and a possible getaway this summer may mean ditching a week of discussion here or there.Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-16943141458477823462009-05-19T03:02:00.000-04:002009-05-19T03:02:00.000-04:00Damon and Carlton confirming that the imperfect ar...<BR>Damon and Carlton confirming that the imperfect arrangement of the Ajira flight vis-a-vis recreating Oceanic 815 (or missing people, like Aaron and Desmond) was almost as frustrating, and <I>more</I> confusing, than the confirmation of Kate raising Aaron as a substitute for Sawyer. That's something that belongs in the show, and would seem to cut off much speculation about Jacob's or the Island's involvement in deliberately sending Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Hurley 30 years back because they needed to be there for some reason. Why would they be the only ones bumped back to 1977, then?Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-74832379482194541392009-05-19T03:01:00.000-04:002009-05-19T03:01:00.000-04:00Swan: At the beginning of "The Incident"part one, ...<I><B>Swan:</B> At the beginning of "The Incident"part one, where we first see Jacob and MaybeEsau, they say: “It always ends the same.” Jacob says, “But it only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”...WTF! What does this mean?? I want more!</I><BR><BR>Esau is tired of Jacob bringing mortals to the Island only to have it end in "... destruction and corruption." What Jacob is saying is that each round of trial or observation or what-have-you has led to that same conclusion <I>thus far</I> but they're battles, not the whole war. To me Jacob is doing this less for his amusement than in an attempt to prove something -- humanity's ability to achieve the stuff of nobler aspirations -- to Esau, to himself, or to a higher power. That's why the whole thing reminds me of the "Old Testament" God knee-jerk wiping out the human race from disappointment over its wicked ways; the destruction of Sodom was at least an improvement over the Flood, which wiped out <I>everything</I> save what was on Noah's ark. Since Jacob's efforts so far have been episodic, he's telling Esau that the experiment isn't over 'til it's over, to quote Yogi Berra; until whatever deadline there might be from that higher power, or in Esau's promise to find the loophole that will allow him to kill Jacob, the next group of humanity brought to the Island will have its own chance to deal with the Island's gifts, its hazards if not curses, and one another.Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-46992119829580000572009-05-18T21:30:00.000-04:002009-05-18T21:30:00.000-04:00Sheesh, 98 comments?! That's the most a non-Lost-r...Sheesh, 98 comments?! That's the most a non-Lost-review has ever gotten. We apparently have a LOT to say about this episode! I need to break out some more posts or something. I definitely have some catching up to do. <br /><br />And leafonthewind... that song is now in my head. But I love it, so that's OK! LOL!!Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-13752358980570961972009-05-18T21:13:00.000-04:002009-05-18T21:13:00.000-04:00As promised, my post on the Moebius theory is up:
...As promised, my post on the Moebius theory is up:<br /><br /><A>http://theoreticalisland.blogspot.com</A>Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-72171672861533578492009-05-18T20:15:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:15:00.000-04:00enjoy your blog and books nikki. i have a theory(i...enjoy your blog and books nikki. i have a theory(it could be withces, sorry, big Buffy fan, couldnt resist) that the loophole badtwin locke spoke of involved Ben having to be "judged" by smokey. possibly only someone who had been deemed worthy by smokey could kill Jacob. badtwin locke obviously couldnt do the deed himself. i'm assuming that smokey is a free agent and has no allegiances to Jacob or maybesau.leafonthewind88https://www.blogger.com/profile/06062710188275384693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-82395070115338349412009-05-18T20:13:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:13:00.000-04:00I am so up for doing a re-watch with ya'll, what a...I am so up for doing a re-watch with ya'll, what a good idea. <I>{{Hi everybody I'm a newbie who's lovin' it over here.}}</I> However I live on an island and the one and only video/dvd rental store has only the complete 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons! Ugh! Time to look into Netflicks or some such, I suppose. What's a gal on a budget to do! <br /><BR>Now, I'm just throwing some comments out here.<br />RE: Others, Death, Sickness, Children<br /><BR>In the beginning of the series the others seem more scary than they do now. They steal children (why?), they're aggressive kidnappers, easily use force (often lethal), they're accompanied by eerie whispers and Smokie (or so we thought), often clad in jungle rags, etc.! There is a sickness on the island that makes some crazy, some sick. All of that had such ominous undertones. Subsequently, we get more of the others' back story, some are native others, some are Dharma, some recruited people. We see the others don't necessarily kill every non-other as it initially seemed. But then we have to reconcile the pit full of bodies from a purge. That is very scary, what could have caused [Ben to do]it? The same kind of sickness that prompted Danielle's love to try and kill her, making it necessary for her to kill him? Or something else? Radiation sickness? Getting rid of non-natives? When Sayid and Jack began opening fire on the Dharmites in The Incident, I thought for a second, <I>oh, perhaps the dead bodies in the pit come from this shoot out!</I><BR>Then I quickly realized that's not the case. Purge is such a strong word, what would necessitate it? Even with the homicidal-ly inclined Ben? And if bodies need to be burned or buried deep so as not to be tampered with by some entity, why were those just thrown in an open pit? Even without the entity-body-using element, it would be unwise to have a mass grave open like that: unsanitary, disease prone and dangerous. There is so much death and killing on this island.E.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11108275657965234552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-17829973314389101802009-05-18T16:27:00.000-04:002009-05-18T16:27:00.000-04:00Any ideas as to why croc/god/statue is holding two...Any ideas as to why croc/god/statue is holding two anks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78072058583013199732009-05-18T15:51:00.000-04:002009-05-18T15:51:00.000-04:00At the beginning of "The Incident"part one, where ...At the beginning of "The Incident"part one, where we first see Jacob and MaybeEsau, they say: “It always ends the same.” Jacob says, “But it only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”...WTF! What does this mean?? I want more!theSwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03860670840994934760noreply@blogger.com