tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post2851466619175536185..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Game of Thrones 3.9: "The Rains of Castamere"Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-13321539709357354052019-09-12T00:43:14.968-04:002019-09-12T00:43:14.968-04:00Thanks for sharing, nice post! Post really provice...Thanks for sharing, nice post! Post really provice useful information!<br /><br />An Thái Sơn với website <a href="https://images.google.ps/url?q=http://anthaison.vn" rel="nofollow">anthaison.vn</a> chuyên sản phẩm <a href="https://images.google.ps/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0oyXccR7ZE" rel="nofollow">máy đưa võng</a> hay <a href="https://images.google.ps/url?q=http://anthaison.vn/sp/may-dua-vong-tu-dong-ts/" rel="nofollow">máy đưa võng tự động</a> tốt cho bé là địa chỉ bán <a href="https://images.google.ps/url?q=https://mayduavong.me/dia-chi-mua-may-dua-vong-tu-dong-gia-re-uy-tin-tai-tp-hcm/" rel="nofollow">máy đưa võng giá rẻ</a> tại TP.HCM và giúp bạn tìm <a href="https://images.google.ps/url?q=https://mayduavong.me/nen-mua-may-dua-vong-tu-dong-loai-nao-tot-nhat-gia-bao-nhieu/" rel="nofollow">máy đưa võng loại nào tốt</a> hiện nay.nhuthuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14137360962245024060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-79336618472580692402015-04-22T06:57:48.825-04:002015-04-22T06:57:48.825-04:00but I'm looking at the Core System for a possi...but I'm looking at the Core System for a possible game set in the world of my <a href="http://gotepisodes.com/watch-game-of-thrones-online-free/" rel="nofollow">Good website to Watch Game of Thrones online today</a><br />jadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835847777966515522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-42639692661913410572013-06-08T11:32:25.627-04:002013-06-08T11:32:25.627-04:00Joel, as viewers who have not read the books, my h...Joel, as viewers who have not read the books, my husband and I completely missed the significance of the salt and bread. I noticed it being passed around and wondered why the camera was focusing on it. I came to the incorrect yet funny conclusion that it was meant to show the stinginess of the Freys. My husband said he didn't even notice the salt and bread. I do think this could have been explained better for those who haven't read the books.<br /><br />Of course, I liked this episode a lot, but I found myself much more interested in Bran and Joh Snow's story line than the red wedding. The part of the red wedding that got to me most was Arya having to witness the aftermath while intuiting what had happened. I guess I just wasn't that into Robb, Talisa, and Catelyn. <br /><br />On the other hand, John leaving Ygritte behind and missing an opportunity to meet up with Bran really got to me. I hope that some of you are right when speculating that John will go back for Ygritte. I can't see her trusting him now, though.<br /><br />Did anyone else wonder why seeing the two direwolfs didn't tip off John to Bran and Rickon being nearby?Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-55640465447603799312013-06-05T20:28:07.772-04:002013-06-05T20:28:07.772-04:00@humanebean — I think you mean Scheißegeist, which...<br>@humanebean — I think you mean <i>Scheißegeist</i>, which I've been told is the bogeyman German parents use to frighten their children into potty-training, and I do not ever want to encounter one. (It's also the Von Trapp Family's least-requested song.)<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-640037971984164112013-06-05T20:26:06.950-04:002013-06-05T20:26:06.950-04:00@Nikki: AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
That was devasta...<br>@Nikki: <i>AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!</i><br /><br />That was devastating — <i>especially</i> the repeated stabs to Talisa's abdomen, given her just-revealed pregnancy. I can't deny being glad in a way that one of the storylines has come to an end, however, notwithstanding that it will eventually impact other characters. And for all that Robb was a decent guy, I also can't deny that he was not the best military tactician nor that he probably deserved to pay (in some form; not like this, of course) for reneging on his pledge to Lord Filch.<br /><br />@Christopher: <i>Jon Snow betrays the wildlings</i><br /><br />I was <i>really</i> mad at Jon Snow for seeming to abandon Ygritte. My assumption in the moment was that he was beating a strategic retreat with some plan in mind and will come back for her, but she clearly doesn't know or think anything of the sort; this may be completely wishful thinking on my part.<br /><br />@ Christopher: <i>Rickon gets to talk! ... Too bad we won’t see him again for the foreseeable future.</i><br /><br />You don't think he and Tonks stumble upon the Red Wedding aftermath in the season finale and exact some righteous vengeance by killing everyone at the Twins? Oh, right: You've read the books.<br /><br />I totally wanted Hodor to mumble "Hodor" in his sleep, by the way. And for all the love we have towards the big guy, when Jojen mentioned that it was a tremendous leap from being able to possess animals to posessing Hodor, I can't be the only person who thought <i>"Welllll..."</i><br /><br />@ Christopher: <i>the very idea of learning things in the abstract from “marks on a page” is utterly alien to Gilly</i><br /><br />I loved, loved, loved that, and not in a "Go readers!" Church Lady Superior-Dance kind of way. Her concept of eliciting information based on scrawling in a book as wizardry makes complete sense.<br /><br />@Nikki: <i>Let’s just say I wish I was limited to Hodor’s vocabulary right now.</i><br /><br />"Hooodooooooooooooooooor!!!"<br /><br />@Christopher: <i>I didn’t put my finger on it until I read a review of the episode that said it was “very 1960s Batman.”</i><br /><br />Yes! <i>Star Trek</i> too, Paleoblues.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-63724193856880884232013-06-05T12:28:34.187-04:002013-06-05T12:28:34.187-04:00Remember the two Freys who met with Robb and Edmur...Remember the two Freys who met with Robb and Edmure at Riverrun to negotiate the wedding? Lame Lothar Frey is the one who murders Talisa, and Black Walder Frey ("Do you want to count her teeth?") is the one who murders Catelyn.<br /><br />Roose Bolton is as involved in the Red Wedding in the books as he is in the show. Robb isn't killed by a random Frey, but by Roose himself:<br />>>A man in dark armor and a pale pink cloak spotted with blood stepped up to Robb. "Jaime Lannister sends his regards." He thrust the longsword through her son's heart, and twisted.<<<br /><br />The Bolton soldiers join with the Frey soldiers in butchering the loyal northmen who had been drunkenly celebrating.<br /><br />Roose had apparently been planning a betrayal for a long time. It's not mentioned in the show, but Roose had also previously sent infantry loyal to Robb (Glover, Tallhart, Cerwyn, Hornwood etc.) to Duskendale near King's Landing, which was not a strategic target of Robb's. These loyal northerners are crushed in battle by Sam's father Randyll Tarly. Roose then tells Robb that Robett Glover was to blame for the disaster, but his real objective was to weaken Robb's army.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-24034827969180519802013-06-04T21:06:10.680-04:002013-06-04T21:06:10.680-04:00To all of you who haven't read the books - jus...To all of you who haven't read the books - just until next season when Sansa kills Dany in single combat and takes the dragons and claims the Iron Throne for herself!!! (of course I kid).<br /><br />Even knowing what happened I was still shocked by the brutality. <br /><br />On a lighter note I did love the little look Walder and Rob exchanged after the bride turned out to be attractive. See Rob could've had the hot wife and the Frey army.<br /><br />Even though this was a great episode I missed the Lannisters. They will always be my favorites.<br /><br /> Tim AlanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-79864628866518669712013-06-04T20:31:20.994-04:002013-06-04T20:31:20.994-04:00Harper Collins UK has posted the "A Storm of ...Harper Collins UK has posted the "A Storm of Swords" chapter that contains the Red Wedding online in a PDF format to allow curious fans to see how the famous sequence played out originally. Very interesting reading. Here is the link:<br />http://cdn1.vnetrix.com/A.Storm.of.Swords-Catelyn.pdf<br />Michelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-47368722111068127452013-06-04T18:35:16.448-04:002013-06-04T18:35:16.448-04:00Regarding Jorah and the "Batman" scene. ...Regarding Jorah and the "Batman" scene. Seeing the set during the "battle", I first flashed on a different iconic '60s series, the original Star Trek.paleoblueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098848867397221344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-25398322631771584222013-06-04T17:23:42.144-04:002013-06-04T17:23:42.144-04:00What I find interesting is the sort of spoilery bi...What I find interesting is the sort of spoilery bits someone gets who has read the books. Because I assume anything they change they clear with GRRM-"Like hey is Robb's wife going to do anything in books 6 or 7?" otherwise it would cause huge issues if they want to stay faithful to the books down the road.<br />So Talisa's death makes me think nothing much interesting will happen with Jeyne Westerling down the road...Gretchen Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422493422572365861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48275129053097915662013-06-04T16:17:59.775-04:002013-06-04T16:17:59.775-04:00I've not yet read past the first book, but I w...I've not yet read past the first book, but I was far more shocked at Catelyn's death than Robb's. Even putting aside the fact that he is, in his father's image, the most traditionally-heroic character on the show (which automatically makes him a target to GRRM, for whatever reason), I've had a bad feeling for him ever since he got married. Which was compounded when he (seemingly) got off easy for breaking his word to Frey. Then compounded more when he made amends to his mother in this episode. Then REALLY compounded, to the point where he may as well have stabbed himself to death, when he started talking about his unborn baby at the wedding reception. <br /><br />But Catelyn, wow. Mind=blown. <br /><br />Not only was she a POV character in the books, but she was the last representative of that older generation of Starks, and really, the last of the older "good guys", and I figured that made her safe. <br /><br />Even after Frey dismissed her threat to his wife, I figured, "this is it, this is how she survives. They'll kill Robb then she'll be kept alive as a prisoner, forced to live with the knowledge of all those deaths, truly, a fate worse than- oh, nope, they slit her throat. She's dead." <br /><br />...<br /><br />You win this round, show. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-53565281361680833672013-06-04T14:30:46.576-04:002013-06-04T14:30:46.576-04:00While I've read the books, I did enjoy the non...While I've read the books, I did enjoy the non-RW scenes in this episode. So many were pivotal moments - Bran warging Hodor and Summer, Jon's running away... The Red Wedding itself was more like getting a needle - hurts a bit, but it's good for you in the long run. Though I would have preferred a bit more of a fight. Not having the Greatjon there was a slight disappointment. As was the lack of discussion regarding hospitality rules. When the Starks first arrive at the Twins, Frey presents bread and salt - which is a sacred vow that they are under his protection. I believe way back in Season 1, Catelyn makes a big deal of this for Robb when visiting Frey the first time. Basically, the Frey name is mud. Not sure if that part was clear - Nicki?<br /><br />There were a few other interesting deviations:<br /><br />Where's the Blackfish? He slipped away thanks to his bladder. I'm surprised he was allowed to leave.<br /><br />Are the Umbers still alive? They're mentioned by Bran as Rickon's safe haven.<br /><br />It's been a while since I read a Storm of Swords, but (Christopher) wasn't Bolton in on it? Wasn't that part of letting Jaime go and abandoning Harrenhal (and Vargo Hoat/his TV counterpart)?<br /><br />I thought Catelyn's murder of an innocent girl was interesting. I had forgotten Jinglebell (couldn't really think at all as that scene was unfolding). Catelyn has been all about honour, she has sworn a vow to kill Frey's wife, he has broken his vow of hospitality, and as far as Cat knows - all her sons are dead and her daughters captives. Her final act in killing Frey's wife seemed like a suicide of sorts, a bitter acceptance of it all being over. I don't know - would Frey have kept her for a captive otherwise? But keeping her arms at her side while her throat was slit... There was silence in our house after that. Haunting.<br /><br />That was a lot to take in - and I'm not sure if I really want to go re-watch the Red Wedding. Thanks for the recap - fantastic as always!<br />Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-44006198316495924172013-06-04T10:32:08.304-04:002013-06-04T10:32:08.304-04:00I started reading the books after a marathon of ca...I started reading the books after a marathon of catching up on two seasons. I like knowing that I can shut my eyes at certain points watching. Reading is less stressful than viewing for me. That being said, my eyes were glued to the knives and swords on the screen. wow. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-14221892209555235842013-06-04T09:43:25.446-04:002013-06-04T09:43:25.446-04:00Oi! My head still hurts.
thanks for a great writ...Oi! My head still hurts.<br /><br />thanks for a great write up - I am even less articulate than usual.<br /><br />I had heard the term Red Wedding, and actually had a pretty good idea Robb would die, expecting that it would be as the result of witchcraft from Mellisandre's leeches. But, damn.<br /><br />My stepson insists I read the rest of the books - I have only read the first one. I guess I can no longer put it off. I know what I am reading this summer.<br /><br />Phrases I am hoping we will see payoff from - The North remembers. And. Winter is coming. I have a feeling greater horrors are in store.JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-6665521085548551562013-06-04T09:08:43.219-04:002013-06-04T09:08:43.219-04:00I began reading the books between Seasons 1 & ...I began reading the books between Seasons 1 & 2 of the show, and believe the third book in the series to be the best. While reading "Storm of Swords", I was completely blown away at the events of the Red Wedding, actually putting the book down briefly and saying something profound and articulate, such as "HOLY SHITEGEIST!".<br /><br />In almost any other novel or series that I can think of, the events depicted in the final episodes of this season on TV would be the absolute show-stopper. It is a tribute to GRRM's skill that the rest of Book 3 (slated for next season) and the remainder of the as-yet-incomplete book series are as worthy and compelling as these shocking developments.<br /><br />Heroism and treachery. Innocence and Evil. The wages of Peace, and the devastation of interminable War. The virtues of the Righteous, and the vices of the Self-Righteous — and vice-versa. The abrupt and spectacular demise of characters with whom we empathize and closely identify, and the endurance, or casual fade, of villains on whom we have fixed our enmity and desire for revenge.<br /><br />Character arcs so well-written on the page are understandably difficult to dramatize on the small screen, especially plot lines involving dozens of major characters, eons of backstory, and multiple points of view across a series that stretches towards the double-digits when all might be said and done. While I have objections both major and minor as regards the HBO adaptation, I will be forever glad that the showrunners chose to take on this impossible task.<br /><br />They've created some indelible characters, brought some tremendous performances into the limelight, and introduced millions of viewers to the existence of this towering series of novels. Thanks again to Chris, and to you, Nikki, for taking the time to share your thoughts on the show and the books so that we all have the opportunity to reflect anew on our enjoyment of this epic tale.humanebeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15717844158635399246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-19055908782435458682013-06-04T01:28:01.363-04:002013-06-04T01:28:01.363-04:00I agree completely with Christopher's comment ...I agree completely with Christopher's comment about my "Stomach clenching up". Knowing it was coming didn't diminish the shock AT ALL.<br /><br />What really got to me was the abruptness of the final few seconds, how that Frey guard just walks on screen, calmly slits Catelyn's throat, and then stomps away without a second thought. Just like a real-life tragedy, it's over in a split-second even though (to most involved) it feels like an eternity is going by.<br /><br />I just finished the latest book a few weeks ago and I'm itching for Book 6. Here's hoping it comes out sometime this millennium!<br /><br />Also, a question for CHRISTOPHER and NIKKI: having just finished all the Ice & Fire books to date, I started Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, which I hear good things about. Have either of you read it? If so, what were your thoughts?<br /><br />Winter is coming.The Question Marknoreply@blogger.com