tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post4249290913777197877..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Lost 6.16 What They Died ForNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger411125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-64582403275538540782011-11-30T23:37:20.681-05:002011-11-30T23:37:20.681-05:00Why is Ana Lucia not ready yet? Is this just a con...<i>Why is Ana Lucia not ready yet? Is this just a convenient device not to involve her?</i><br /><br /><br />I believe it was Cuse and Lindelof sucking up to the fans' dislike of Ana-Lucia. Just before her death, Ana managed to have at least two epiphanies about herself. Apparently, the two producers decided to ignore them.The Rush Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667282586023023623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-39710402813151389332010-05-29T21:42:01.739-04:002010-05-29T21:42:01.739-04:00Eek... sorry, guys, I've been TOTALLY shirking...Eek... sorry, guys, I've been TOTALLY shirking my moderating duties here. I realize some stuff has broken out and I didn't know about it. <br /><br />While I think the Anonymous post was harsh (and most posts that are harsh are usually posted anonymously!!) I think some restraint should be used by all. I have had some complaints emailed me to recently that there are some people on here (not just one, and I won't name names) who are dominating the comments section asking a lot of questions, many times the same question over and over, and because several of my readers actually subscribe to the comments on each post, their inboxes have been inundated, they're ending their subscriptions to my site, and they're even stopping coming here. <br /><br />So if you have a lot of questions, try to form them into one comment. Wait for people to respond. If they don't, assume they've seen it, but simply don't know the answer. Don't keep asking the same questions. <br /><br />If you have an interesting theory, throw it out there, and if people like it, they'll respond, and you can respond back to them, but again, if no one responds to it, just let it go. <br /><br />It's even become difficult for me to moderate because there are so many comments... this season more than ever I've found it difficult, and now I'm worried that things are happening or being said that I wasn't aware of because it was happening at the end of a thread and I was dealing with other threads by that point. <br /><br />If you are attacked, please do not attack back. It's an unwritten rule we have on here... email me to let me know it's happened, and I'll deal with what is happening. But the moment we start arguing with each other on here, people jump ship, it's no longer a welcoming place, and everyone loses. <br /><br />I hate being the rulemaker here (that's Jacob's job, not mine!!) but I really don't want to lose a bunch of readers on a account of a few who are using the comments section for their own reasons rather than being involved in all of the discussions. If you have any questions, please email me and we can discuss it further. <br /><br />I really love what all of you guys bring to the blog. I hope I don't offend anyone by anything I've said here, and know that I've never seen this blog as solely mine... it's ours. And that's why I'm saying this, so we don't lose any parts of our community. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-15915481157500765012010-05-23T17:12:05.942-04:002010-05-23T17:12:05.942-04:00@Blam, humanebean and Benny: I just wanted to chec...<i>@Blam, humanebean and Benny:</i> I just wanted to check the post one last time, and I probably will again before the shows start tonight. Thanks for any and all clarifications and reminders or updates, as I am keeping notes and they should come in handy tonight. I am always grateful to you, you know that! <br /><br /><b>My appreciation to this blog, and it's helpful comrades, knows no boundaries! I have appreciated ALL of you.</b> <br /><br /><i>@Benny said: "oh... and Gracie, then I guess I just assumed wrong about the flight!<br />And when someone posts as 'Anonymous' don't worry about them, they're unlikely to come back...<br />I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!"</i><br /><br />I'm not sure what you mean Benny when you say "I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!" I can take that a couple of ways and wondered if you would please clarify what you meant?<br /><br />Also, regarding "Anonymous": I did know two things immediately,<br />1. This person does not know me, anything about me, and I never would have stood a chance with that person anyway, and<br />2. I knew that Anonymous was not of this blog. After the welcome I received here? There was no way. And everyone here goes out of their way to make clarifications or to help in any way possible, and I knew that would help me before I joined or even e-mailed Nikki. If I hadn't known that, I never would have said anything at all. That was the reason this blog was where I wanted to be, and I hope that everyone who is a regular here knows that. <br /><br />Enjoy The Show!Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48226323019360647532010-05-23T13:23:53.866-04:002010-05-23T13:23:53.866-04:00Thanks, humanebean! Another example of bleed-thro...Thanks, humanebean! Another example of bleed-through is sideways Locke mumbling "Button" and something else when he's coming out of anesthesia. <br /><br /> Also, his expression on the pavement echoed his look after "awakening" from his 8-story fall and upon "awakening" on his back after the initial plane crash. <br /><br />I *DO* think that Desmond's intent was to run Locke over again, before Ben stopped him.TMClancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16012241815499418770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78571787045147390612010-05-23T11:40:54.037-04:002010-05-23T11:40:54.037-04:00oh... and Gracie, then I guess I just assumed wron...oh... and <b>Gracie</b>, then I guess I just assumed wrong about the flight!<br /><br />And when someone posts as 'Anonymous' don't worry about them, they're unlikely to come back...<br /><br />I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-18868504868977089352010-05-23T11:37:02.383-04:002010-05-23T11:37:02.383-04:00@humanebean/Gracie: Food for thought!
I think the...<b>@humanebean/Gracie:</b> Food for thought!<br /><br />I think there are two (more likely) association for the sideways reality. In my own opinion it is either:<br /><br />A] A completely different reality that has evolved since [the beginning of time?] but is extremely similar, with the obvious - David - difference; or,<br /><br />B] A completely different reality only back to 1977 (incident/bomb) where the reality branched in order to avoid [chaos?].<br /><br />I think [B] is more fitting. So far, we've seen nothing that suggests differences in the worlds prior to 1977. And the whole bomb/"it worked" comment.<br /><br />There is also:<br />C] It has been created by one of the characters somehow for some reason and we'll find out this evening!Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-35659162861943604032010-05-23T11:26:04.327-04:002010-05-23T11:26:04.327-04:00Morning, Gracie!
I was just reading your question...Morning, Gracie!<br /><br />I was just reading your question on Jack's appendix scar and its implications for timeline bleed-through. My take on this is that the sideways timeline is NOT just a version of our original timeline in which Oceanic 815 did not crash but a truly 'other' or parallel timeline. We've seen dramatic differences in storyline (Shannon not being on the plane, Hurley never having experienced the mental breakdown or catastrophic luck after the lottery win, Daniel studying music, etc., etc.) - enough perhaps for us to accept that the events that we know so well from the original timeline may never have occurred in the FST or occurred in a radically altered way.<br /><br />So, in the FST, Jack had his appendix taken out by his Dad at an early age. In the original timeline, this never occurred and Juliet removed it on the Island. What we see again and again now in the FST are people puzzling over some events/memories - as if they <i>remembered</i> them happening differently, or in the case of Jack's appendix, not remembering the scar at all.<br /><br />Now, since Charlie 'enlightened' Desmond and Des has proceeded to do the same for Hurley, we've seen people seem to have knowledge of events in BOTH timelines at once. Daniel has displayed this, certainly Desmond himself has and the epiphany experienced by Ben seems to have opened him up to this knowledge as well. This is the 'bleed-through' of the timelines - and things like the blood on Jack's neck seems to indicate that this is taking place with <i>physical</i> elements as well as intellectual ones.<br /><br />Tonight, I think we will see that more and more of our FST gang are aware of these crossovers and begin to take action based on them. So, what will this teach us about the nature of the FST? Is it real? (Daniel thinks not) Was it created by the bomb explosion at the Hatch from the end of last season? Or, was it always there but somehow <i>accessed</i> as a result of this Incident? Can't wait to find out! <br /><br />Hope this clears things up a bit for you. Enjoy the finale!humanebeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15717844158635399246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48427608460108385672010-05-22T23:40:28.145-04:002010-05-22T23:40:28.145-04:00I had asked: "Can anybody please remind me wh...I had asked: <i>"Can anybody please remind me what year they were in when the bomb went off, and Juliet died? The plane took off in 2004, but what year were Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc. In? Please?"</i><br /><br /><i>Benny said: "@Gracie: Just coming back to the blog, missed some detailed discussions that, unfortunately I won't get to reply to. The bomb went off in 1977. The plane (I'm assuming you're referring to Ajira 316) took off in 2007/2008 (still unclear)"</i> <br /><br /><i>Zari said:" ...Year when the bomb went off, and Juliet died. <br />1977? They were in the Dharma Initiative?"</i><br /><i>Benny said: "...oh, and then Juliet died after the bomb went of and they came back, so 2007."</i><br /><br />Thanks guys: I had just popped in myself after being away for awhile. <i>Benny,</i> if you read that again, I meant for it to say the plane (as in the original) Oceanic 815, took off in 2004. Sorry I didn't make that more clear.<br /><br />Yes, I was referring to the bomb that Juliet set off, and what year Sawyer, Jack, Miles, Kate, and the rest of that group were in at the time. (Not too long after this they took Sayid to the Temple.) I thought it was 1977, but just about the time that I would <i>assume</i> that to be correct, I'd be wrong.<br /><br /><i>Zari:</i> Your "They were in the Dharma Initiative?" was followed by a question mark, and I had to sit here for a few minutes to try and recall what was going on just before the bomb, but that is correct. Sayid had just recently been shot, Miles had told his father to get the women and children off the island, and they were heading to the Swan site. Yes, Juliet died, unfortunately. I'm still hoping she's coming back around to go "dutch" with Sawyer.Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-80202173636776047402010-05-22T20:04:27.265-04:002010-05-22T20:04:27.265-04:00*went oFF**went oFF*Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-3675311314732513422010-05-22T20:04:00.344-04:002010-05-22T20:04:00.344-04:00...oh, and then Juliet died after the bomb went of......oh, and then Juliet died after the bomb went of and they came back, so 2007.Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-60667868910007711862010-05-22T20:03:19.929-04:002010-05-22T20:03:19.929-04:00...Year when the bomb went off, and Juliet died.
...<i> ...Year when the bomb went off, and Juliet died. </i><br /><br />1977? They were in the Dharma Initiative?Zarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03179474701017566772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-56229769630696196742010-05-22T20:02:57.491-04:002010-05-22T20:02:57.491-04:00@Gracie: Just coming back to the blog, missed some...<b>@Gracie:</b> Just coming back to the blog, missed some detailed discussions that, unfortunately I won't get to reply to.<br /><br />The bomb went off in 1977. The plane (I'm assuming you're referring to Ajira 316) took off in 2007/2008 (still unclear)Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036549649615941601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-29696858435310426412010-05-22T19:59:46.510-04:002010-05-22T19:59:46.510-04:00@Grace, you said on May 21, 2010 10:49 PM ...I h...<b> @Grace, you said on May 21, 2010 10:49 PM </b> <i> ...I have so many theories and ideas...that if I posted all of them, this would be MY blog, not Nikki's.</i><br /><br />Well, with your posts on just the last two episodes – 84 and counting on #6.16, and 124 posts on #6.15 -- why would anyone think that?<br /><br />And calling other posters liars because they wouldn’t agree/contribute to your “Smocke-Flocke-way-out-from-left-field-sex-theory” -- <b> Really?!? </b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-29381760430827710522010-05-22T19:56:13.406-04:002010-05-22T19:56:13.406-04:00Can anybody please remind me what year they were i...Can anybody please remind me what year they were in when the bomb went off, and Juliet died? The plane took off in 2004, but what year were Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc. in? Please?<br /><br />Thank you!Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21754209042008719962010-05-22T18:07:24.804-04:002010-05-22T18:07:24.804-04:00So it turns out the finale gives us a redemptive/s...So it turns out the finale gives us a redemptive/spiritual "Return of the Jedi" type ending and Ben and Hurley wind up running the "Island". They build a Hotel del Coronado type resort (half white, half black of course) and call it "Fantasy Island".variabullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-3301296773388266132010-05-22T13:08:49.827-04:002010-05-22T13:08:49.827-04:00Convergence, thanks for your nice words about fell...Convergence, thanks for your nice words about fellow commenters here. Am rushing out but wanted to say that I wish I'd found Nikki's blog and her commenters earlier> just discovered these this week< after buying her Kindle books.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109282436243758435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-71448711210956895772010-05-22T12:50:03.280-04:002010-05-22T12:50:03.280-04:00@Gracie
I did post about your erotic theories, bu...@Gracie<br /><br />I did post about your erotic theories, but briefly, merely that while I felt that sexual tension immediately just like you, ultimately I concluded Flocky was keeping Claire around as more of a pet.<br /><br />I agree about viewer comments flashing on the screen during the finale - that would be sacriligious, outrageous, for the finale of a show like this. But, sigh, par for the commercial course.<br /><br />I'm convinced the networks purposely annoy the audience with intrusions like interstitial ads not because they truly believe interstitials work, but to force you to buy the DVD if you want an uninterrupted viewing experience.<br /><br />I wish I was smart enough to code software that would blur all interstitials into background colors loosely matching the background. So yeh, the bottom of the screen would get blurry at times, but at least it wouldn't mean having to watch Dexter taking a dump as his dog walks across the bottom of the screen or whatever those stupid during-the-program ads show while I'm trying to watch a program.<br /><br />I've actully thought of taping a piece of cardboard across the bottom of my TV so I don't have to see that interstitial crap. Maybe I'll have some cardboard ready for the Lost finale to cover up Judy from Omaha's "Omigod Jack is so cute" comment from appearing while I'm trying to figure out what the heck is occurring on-screen. You know - within the actual program itself?<br /><br />WV - padis: Ah, this one is perfect. Padis is the name for the advertisement padding networks add such as interstitial ads or Judy from Omaha's comments.Convergencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21093238176722200722010-05-22T09:13:42.968-04:002010-05-22T09:13:42.968-04:00This is funny! From another Blogging site that I s...This is funny! From another Blogging site that I stumbled on:<br /><br /><i>"MSMenden1: LOSTIN THE MYSTERY WROTE: 1h4m ago<br /><br />I've read this blog from the beginning. I've enjoyed all your comments over the years. I think you're all way smarter than me.......I've loved this show and I've loved your insight.......BUT...........<br /><br />I do NOT want all your comments racing across my TV screen while I'm trying to enjoy and absorb the grande finale of 6 years of TV watching. What a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE idea!<br /><br />I absolutely agree with you there, when I saw the verizon ad last nite I got mad, I'm hoping that this will be done during the 2 hour buildup before the show and they leave the final episode alone. If they do it during commercials or some other way during the finale that's ok as well, but it better not be while the actual finale is on..."</i><br /><br />Did anyone from here comment on this? I saw that at the end Tuesday, and I just said, "You've got to be kidding me!?!?!" <br /><br />They better not!!Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-90577598306840303192010-05-22T09:08:43.796-04:002010-05-22T09:08:43.796-04:00Has Miles ever spoken to FLocke? Has FLocke ever s...Has Miles ever spoken to FLocke? Has FLocke ever spoken to Miles?Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-69796586748767424272010-05-22T08:36:44.652-04:002010-05-22T08:36:44.652-04:00I won't be around a lot today, but I'll ch...<i>I won't be around a lot today, but I'll check back in periodically for an answer to this question:</i><br /><br />Unless the island's timeline (which is the original timeline) never happened at all, what possible explanation could there be for Jack having his appendix removed by Juliet when, in fact, it had already been removed when he was seven or eight? <br /><br />OR it was never removed when he was a child? <br /><br />ONLY one of these can be factual. (Unless somehow I've missed the heads up that we are regrowing them now??) <br /><br />What does this one fact do to our theories of a bleed-through in time-lines? Anything? (I'm showing my lack of knowledge about how time lines converge and bleed-through, but I think everyone knows time travel is not one of my stronger points.) <b>HELP?</b>Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-26773148428995544262010-05-22T05:52:11.763-04:002010-05-22T05:52:11.763-04:00Somebody's been reading my posts!! LOL Make su...Somebody's been reading my posts!! LOL Make sure you read to the very last sentence to get what I mean:<br /><br /><i>"Jungle Love,” Steve Miller Band: Everyone has needs –– even plane crash survivors. Raw survival instincts coupled with all that tattered, wet clothing …… yeah, it’s no wonder Sawyer and Kate finally got busy in a polar bear cage. “Lost” had plenty of cozy romantic connections –– Claire and Charlie, Shannon and Sayid, Hurley and Libby, Sawyer and Juliet, to name a few –– but nothing really captured the mad and crazy Steve Miller kind of jungle love like that sweaty Sawyer-Kate moment (well, maybe Sawyer and Ana Lucia’s brief ‘fling.’) Which makes sense considering smooth con man James Ford spent the bulk of his island time shirtless. Maybe that’s why the Man in Black has been so cranky all these years. He just wants to mate off-island with a female Smokey. —— Thomas Rozwadowski"</i><br /><br />LMAO I love it!!Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-2334524428748729022010-05-22T05:32:30.624-04:002010-05-22T05:32:30.624-04:00For anyone interested: There is an article at this...<i>For anyone interested:</i> There is an article at this link where the writer's (who describe themselves as fans) go into the show's successes and failures. It's not very long. <br /><br />While I thought this was a little odd at first since the show is <i>not quite over,</i> I think they are just trying to cash in on the popularity of Lost this weekend, and <i>they <b>are</b> fair.</i> <br /><br />http://greenbayhub.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100522/GPG0505/100521111&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSELGraciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-78709305513124902992010-05-22T02:57:03.709-04:002010-05-22T02:57:03.709-04:00Convergence said: "PS, @ Gracie, too - althou...<i>Convergence said: "PS, @ Gracie, too - although I think the erotic Flocky thread, ummm, "petered out" a while ago for me :)<br />As for Gracie's WV - QFPPERAB, how's this? <br />What all of us LOST fans said when the arc of the story never completed and the parabola of the whole thing was ... lost.<br />As in, "Dude! I was enjoying that whole parabola and then it just disappeared! It was like - QFPPERAB!"</i><br /><br />Convergence: If you said <i>anywhere</i> what you thought of my "erotic Flocky thread", I apparently missed it. So what did <a rel="nofollow">YOU</a> think? And your WV works just fine for me. We could use that instead of swearing, but I'm not sure how many of us would remember it. LOLGraciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-51599529733505176402010-05-22T02:53:00.251-04:002010-05-22T02:53:00.251-04:00I also found the following by the same author, and...I also found the following by the same author, and I think it's fun looking back at where we were on 2/3/10. Just read along and enjoy. Soon enough it will be over for all of us. We will be looking for this stuff then.<br /><br /><i>"Lost" Notes<br />By Rich Heldenfels on February 3, 2010<br />I have these conversations with other "Lost" fans, trying to sort out the details and figure out what's going on. It's fun to talk about but, in the end, I don't really care how much I know or don't know. I just like watching it unfold.<br />So, last night, I nodded when we saw that not-Locke (whom I still think of as Esau) is the smoke monster, and that people apparently come back to life in the island because there are healing powers in the water, which has been tapped by the healing spring. And I pondered how Juliet was right, that the bomb did work - at least in some ways, because the people are on the plane. And this morning, having had a decent night's sleep and some cold medicine, I finally understood that we are at two different places in the time line — that Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, Jin, Miles and Sayid have come back to the present day, while everyone got off the plane not in a parallel world but just getting off the plane several years ago. And that, therefore, somehow, they are going to end up on the island anyway.<br />And then the questions pop up — for instance, why does the flight attendant at the temple know about "the first plane" if the first plane did not crash? Are the temple dwellers able to keep track of the time shifts in some way?<br />But then I stop, and think that I am having fun even if I don't figure everything out. And there are these wonderful flourishes, like the way not-Locke moved in and out of the light when talking to Ben, not to mention the argument he makes for people staying on the island, an argument underscored when we see that, yes, the lives the passengers would have had without the island are messed up — and it really wasn't so bad being on the island. There is no place like home, I suppose, as "Lost" argues in its twisted-"Wizard of Oz" way, but home is also where you make it. And it feels, at this moment in the show's ever-shifting universe, as if we are going to reach the end of the series with major characters choosing to call the island home."</i><br /><br />Only on Lost could a newspaper article like this make sense!Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-29899269538747192452010-05-22T02:50:57.009-04:002010-05-22T02:50:57.009-04:00I just found this (below) from my own local newspa...I just found this (below) from my own local newspaper! <b>Does anyone know how to find the links when those weeks have passed, and I can't find them at ABC?</b><br />(Just because I can't find them doesn't mean they're not there.)<br /><br /><i>This is OLD folks, so the current video is no longer Ben!! <br /></i>"From ABC:<br /><br />In celebration of the sixth and final season for “Lost,” ABC will produce music videos that will offer fans a musical look inside of specific characters from the island. Each week an individual music video will be released that will include footage from this season and can be seen at ABC.com. Videos that will be set to different recording artists will include the characters of Ben, Sawyer, Richard Alpert, Sun & Jin, Desmond, Hurley, Kate, Jack, Sayid and Locke. The first music video currently playing in the ABC Music Lounge features Ben and is set to “Ben” by Michael Jackson. “Lost” airs Tuesdays from 9:00-10:00 p.m., ET on the ABC Television Network. <br /><br />You can find the "Ben" video here."<br /><br /><i>(The current video is Sawyer, and I agree, he's a "Cowboy Casanova"!)</i><br /><br />I took that from here:<br />http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2010/03/lost-music-videos/<br />But I cannot figure out how to find the ones that already ran, like Ben.<br /><br />BTW: If you haven't seen the video at ABC called "LOST: Music Montage", OMG, go see it! It's over eleven minutes long, and it's beautiful. (I'll cry for the next hour or two just for Desmond and Penny! And Hurley!!)Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488395834471648522noreply@blogger.com