tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post9022383338810346470..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Fringe: "The Last Sam Weiss"Nikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-31880636031255748622011-05-05T02:17:29.152-04:002011-05-05T02:17:29.152-04:00I was hoping to find Peter "naked" when ...I was hoping to find Peter "naked" when he landed in the future just like in Terminator, lol...<br /><br />my heart just melted when Olivia said to Peter "I Love You"...<br /><br />season 4 is looking great set in the future... :-)HoH8noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-34225874054758139342011-05-03T11:29:36.706-04:002011-05-03T11:29:36.706-04:00Does anyone else think that Sam Wiess is a nod to ...Does anyone else think that Sam Wiess is a nod to the Tolkien character Samwise Gamgee?myselfixionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18260627648863354792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-57505570968134809372011-05-02T12:00:21.377-04:002011-05-02T12:00:21.377-04:00And just to whore myself out on a third comment, s...And just to whore myself out on a third comment, sorry..<br /><br />FRINGE BOOK! =DStephen 'Socks' Bowronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624396393314899716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-74464752936112417852011-05-02T11:59:12.087-04:002011-05-02T11:59:12.087-04:00Also -- I skimmed the other comments so again, may...Also -- I skimmed the other comments so again, may have been mentioned -- but Peter looked older and I saw someone mention he was wearing a wedding band (I need to rewatch as of yet) so it looks like we've got some delicious consciousness time leaps a la Desmond on the go here! <br /><br />AAARGH I AM EXCITE!Stephen 'Socks' Bowronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624396393314899716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-44928933275322891442011-05-02T11:53:59.979-04:002011-05-02T11:53:59.979-04:00I know it's a bit of a stretch (and I neglecte...I know it's a bit of a stretch (and I neglected to read everyone else's comments here) but I am kind of really hoping that we're gonna jump forward in time for the show in S4.<br /><br />Fringe isn't stale, but it would be a massively bold and interesting if not the least bit entertaining to see our characters ten years down the line.<br /><br />It's not like it's not happened before -- well, as long as ten years hasn't but y'know -- with BSG, Lost, Alias et al..<br /><br />Could be exciting!Stephen 'Socks' Bowronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13624396393314899716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-49876229071808590082011-05-02T02:46:49.560-04:002011-05-02T02:46:49.560-04:00Is this going to be Fringe's take on Lost'...Is this going to be Fringe's take on Lost's time travel, with sudden switches from universe to universe? Or is Newton's cradle (Newton's pendulum) an image of what might happen? At one point, Nina Sharp smashed two globes together to illustrate worlds colliding. But if you have multiple worlds, the shock will travel through them all, like Newton's cradle. <br /><br />I like the idea of 15 years in the future (or some world's future) mentioned here. But Peter's hair looked like Walter's with the wave. Does this indicate Peter is inside another Peter's body/mind?Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474623954925835867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-23599411180134041732011-05-01T20:56:46.879-04:002011-05-01T20:56:46.879-04:00I am also loving this. Nik, I too miss our LOST c...I am also loving this. Nik, I too miss our LOST conversations. Regardless of how this turns out, I am sure this next episode will be out of this world - which ever universe it happens in!<br /><br />Can't wait to see what plays out... :)Cindy/SenexMacDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-85804323006849977432011-05-01T16:28:14.406-04:002011-05-01T16:28:14.406-04:00Ooh, all this speculation is making me even more e...Ooh, all this speculation is making me even more excited about next week's episode!! I miss our Lost discussions, but this is just as much fun. ;) <br /><br />Yellow as the third primary colour: You guys are brilliant. I totally buy that, and now I'm starting to think this really is a third universe. IMAGINE!! If the other two are causing this war between themselves, and a third innocent world suddenly gets sucked in. Oh, I love it. <br /><br />Jeff: Thanks for the reminder on Bell! I'd completely forgotten that. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-6117072255573400642011-05-01T14:18:39.807-04:002011-05-01T14:18:39.807-04:00It may also be a future and an alternate, yellow b...It may also be a future and an alternate, yellow being the third primary color (versus purple, which would be a blend of blue and red). I like the idea of a third Peter. Open question – Why haven’t we met or gotten any information on an alternate Nina Sharpe??? I think they are saving her for a special surprise. I know it would screw up the story, but what about the people who are born/not born because things in the other universe didn’t happen the same way? E.G. will there be a Henry in our Universe? Where is he fifteen years from now, if he hasn’t been born yet?<br />Peter has a wedding band on, so has he married Olivia? Is she the one that is going to die? Are they going to spend all their time preventing the future from happening? We already know what ever happened happened (I assume any rules in the Abrams-verse apply to all his creations). Does anyone taste like strawberries yet…..JShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219841452322761803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-31790811666096537932011-05-01T11:43:22.147-04:002011-05-01T11:43:22.147-04:00Nikki - It was explained in an earlier episode, I ...Nikki - It was explained in an earlier episode, I believe in Season 2, when Olivia first meets Bell, that Alt-Bell was killed in a car accident early on in that universe, leaving our universe's Bell to carry on for him.Jeff Heimbuchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208813394245805030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-84601921698260044222011-05-01T11:35:49.136-04:002011-05-01T11:35:49.136-04:00@Nikki - okay the sequence goes like this...
a) Pe...@Nikki - okay the sequence goes like this...<br />a) Peter enters the machine and it turns on<br />b) Peter wakes up into the middle of what looks like a war zone<br />c) he stumbles when an explosion happens and stands up to see the plague which is marked 2021 (when it was erected) and looks up to see the 'new' tower<br />d) a soldier (it appears), calling Agent Bishop, runs towards Peter who is hurt/shot? and we see that the soldier is wearing the double F for Fringe Division (which our world does not have - at this point)<br />e) Peter passes out...<br /><br />Justin and I just discussed this again and I see the following scenarios.<br /><br />Peter has been switched with another Peter (which means this is a third universe as Peter in ours is dead and Peter in the alt-universe is now is ours).<br /><br />Or this is our universe and Peter has moved to the future and we now have our own Fringe Division which Peter might be part of and all hell is breaking loose.<br /><br />I am still going to go with the first choice and that 'third' Peter is now in the machine...<br /><br />And I am sticking to that until next week's episode airs... :) lolCindy/SenexMacDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-36341489544676608482011-05-01T11:30:35.000-04:002011-05-01T11:30:35.000-04:00Well, I could also spoil you on which characters w...<br>Well, I could also spoil you on which characters we see in the future (if such it is) in the next-week Fox promo, but I'll let you search that out for yourselves. <br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-91631454225351827632011-05-01T11:27:43.878-04:002011-05-01T11:27:43.878-04:00It's curious, though, that the Fringe Division...<br>It's curious, though, that the Fringe Division decal was <i>yellow</i> — not red like on the Other Side, and the primary color as yet left unused in the opening credits, which of course are red for Over There and smoky blue for Over Here.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-26481798511616795862011-05-01T11:16:22.863-04:002011-05-01T11:16:22.863-04:00Ashlie also brings up a great point that I forgot ...Ashlie also brings up a great point that I forgot to mention in my rundown: the Fringe division. Now, technically, there IS a Fringe division in our world -- Walter, Peter, Astrid, and Olivia all work for it, and Broyles heads it up. It's just a covert division that no one knows about, whereas in the alt-universe they're out in the open. I like the idea of the two worlds collapsing into one, which is very, very likely, but also, perhaps so many supernatural events began happening that the Fringe division in our world simply became a household name out of necessity, and they were forced out of the closet and out into the open, just as in the other world.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-58898517929897593352011-05-01T11:14:40.679-04:002011-05-01T11:14:40.679-04:00Hi folks... I can't write much now and haven&#...<br>Hi folks... I can't write much now and haven't even read Nikki's post in depth — since my online connection is so bad, I have a habit of opening/refreshing pages while I can for later perusal. So I launched a tab for and <i>did</i> read these comments, which brings me to this: Here in the US the coming attractions after the episode on Fox said "15 Years in the Future". My initial thoughts were either another alternate universe or time travel or a glimpse of the likeliest future at this moment given to Peter by the device, and it's possible even with that promo text that it's still all in his head, but I played the preview (which is probably on the Fox website) back a couple of times and it definitely said this.<br /><br>Blam (Alternate)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13835504951936606019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-42095982964138832142011-05-01T11:13:17.448-04:002011-05-01T11:13:17.448-04:00ashlie: No, I haven't read his take yet (I nev...ashlie: No, I haven't read his take yet (I never read anyone else's before posting mine) but he must have been going by some press release or something, because there's actually nothing to suggest 2026 in that scene, unless there was a sign somewhere that I didn't see. They zoomed in on the memorial that said 2021, so that planted us in the future (and as you say, absolutely it could be beyond that) but there's no way of knowing for sure unless someone from the show has tipped him off. EW gets extra info that we poor bloggers don't. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-48703836007118733752011-05-01T11:12:33.253-04:002011-05-01T11:12:33.253-04:00@Nikki - I am watching it right now on City's ...@Nikki - I am watching it right now on City's website to confirm. Even if the date says that the memorial plague is from 2021 - it does not mean it is our universe. Otherwise I can't see the reason for the glyph to say MULTI.Cindy/SenexMacDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-76609420914157054292011-05-01T10:29:38.163-04:002011-05-01T10:29:38.163-04:00Hey Nikki - have you read Ken Tucker's take on...Hey Nikki - have you read Ken Tucker's take on the episode on EW yet? He suggests that it's 15 years into the future (the memorial site was just to place us in the future, but to be fair, it could be any time after the date on the memorial) and that the world shown is some sort of combination of our world and the world "over there" since we see that 9/11 took place, and also that there's a Fringe division. Maybe Bell was wrong and both universes can exist at once, and that's what happens with the machine? Maybe that's why there's mass panic and war-like scene - are people just going nuts because everyone has dopplegangers running around? Can't wait for next week's episode!Ashlie Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04819825642101427700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-84789934760206121052011-05-01T10:28:25.878-04:002011-05-01T10:28:25.878-04:00Cindy: By the way, great comment about the possibi...Cindy: By the way, great comment about the possibility of a third universe, something my husband and I also talked about in light of the MULTI glyph. If they open up a third world, that's a whole new world of possibilities!Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-89420585542315597862011-05-01T10:24:54.092-04:002011-05-01T10:24:54.092-04:00OK, now I'm really confused (and have also del...OK, now I'm really confused (and have also deleted it from the PVR). Peter stands up, turns around, and sees a plaque that says, "We will always remember September 11, 2001." Underneath that it says, "Memorial erected September 11, 2021." So that would be 10 years in the future, and it's referring back to September 11, something that wouldn't mean anything to the alt-universe. It appeared that our world had rebuilt some new building in place of the Twin Towers. Did I read the memorial sign incorrectly?Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-63643835253853351392011-05-01T10:18:04.596-04:002011-05-01T10:18:04.596-04:00@Nikki also said: "Someone asked me last week...@Nikki also said: "Someone asked me last week if I noticed that the guy playing Sam Weiss was the same guy playing Sean Garrity, the drama instructor on Community."<br /><br />- waves hand in air... That would be me. :)<br /><br />"Poor sweet wonderful Astrid, she’s always at the mercy of Walter and his whims, but also acts like a mother figure to him."<br /><br />I love it when Walter calls her another name. I know he doesn't mean it but it is so cute! Ostrich... lol<br /><br />"Why 2021?"<br /><br />Okay, based on my first comments, I wanted to go back and double check but unfortunately we had already deleted this ep from the PVR. However, both Justin and I am pretty sure we did not see any captioning to say that after Peter started up the machine that this is where he ended up. Did I miss that part? If so, then please forget my entire first comment... maybe.Cindy/SenexMacDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-23867337758765301792011-05-01T10:07:16.207-04:002011-05-01T10:07:16.207-04:00@Nikki said: "But with the very end of the ep...@Nikki said: "But with the very end of the episode, with Peter being zapped 10 years into the future, I’m thinking nope, he’s still vitally important." ... and ...<br /><br />"Did You Notice?:<br />• The glyphs spelled MULTI."<br /><br />Nik, I don't think that Peter is in the future. There was no indication that he was. Yes, there was a new tower in place of the others. The memorial sign clearly made it so. However, since the Towers exist in the alternate universe, and even though there are plans to put a new tower on/near the same site and it has not happened yet, this does not mean it is OUR future.<br /><br />I think the glyph is indicating that he is now in the third(!) alternate universe and that he crossed over while in the machine.<br /><br />My thoughts...Cindy/SenexMacDonaldnoreply@blogger.com