tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post9154736572057946893..comments2024-02-04T05:13:04.501-05:00Comments on Nik at Nite: Lostaholics Anonymous: SawyerNikki Staffordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-57830718277456362212011-08-24T14:44:36.506-04:002011-08-24T14:44:36.506-04:00I like Sawyer, but he has never been a big favorit...I like Sawyer, but he has never been a big favorite of mine. He had a bad habit of being a scapegoater. He solely blamed Anthony Cooper for his parents' deaths and refused to accept the fact that they were just as much to blame . . . especially Mr. Ford. He solely blamed Tom Friendly for Walt's kidnapping, despite the fact that Ben was the one who had ordered the kidnapping. By the end of S3, Sawyer should have known this. But he placed all the blame on Tom. By the beginning of S6, he solely blamed Jack for Juliet's death, despite the fact that she was mainly responsible. Although Sawyer blamed himself for convincing Juliet to remain on the island, his decision to pull the wires of that bomb in "The Candidate" as a clear indication that he had not absolved Jack of most of the blame.<br /><br />Because of Sawyer's penchant for scapegoating, he was responsible for the deaths of six people. That is a lot of blood on one's hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-51986011760359152682010-11-03T22:27:18.816-04:002010-11-03T22:27:18.816-04:00Nikki wrote-
"QuestionMark: I had no idea th...Nikki wrote-<br /><br />"QuestionMark: I had no idea that Lostpedia had their musical motifs! Do you have a link to that? I'd love to go and hear them. It's actually something that's fascinated me from the beginning... I can hum Ben's and Claire's and Locke's, but some of the others fall into the background and aren't as obvious so I'd love to check that out. There's a half-dozen papers waiting to be written on the importance of the musical motifs on Lost. ;) "<br /><br />Oh absolutely. Someone called Michael Giacchino "the 15th Lostie" and I couldn't agree more. <br />His themes for all the characters are brilliant. Each character has at least one, sometimes two (Locke) or three (Hurley) to express different aspects of their personalities and personal journeys. And I loved hearing them all given a curtain call in the finale.<br /><br />I own all the soundtrack CDs that have been released. Season 6 alone has a whopping four CDs of music released! How many TV shows can make that claim?Rick Rischenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21280078598896379432010-11-02T21:10:07.451-04:002010-11-02T21:10:07.451-04:00Tomorrow night, get ready for: John Locke. It'...Tomorrow night, get ready for: John Locke. It'll be a doozy. ;)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-67188448204160052892010-11-02T21:09:25.613-04:002010-11-02T21:09:25.613-04:00QuestionMark: I had no idea that Lostpedia had the...QuestionMark: I had no idea that Lostpedia had their musical motifs! Do you have a link to that? I'd love to go and hear them. It's actually something that's fascinated me from the beginning... I can hum Ben's and Claire's and Locke's, but some of the others fall into the background and aren't as obvious so I'd love to check that out. There's a half-dozen papers waiting to be written on the importance of the musical motifs on Lost. ;) <br /><br />And speaking of music, I now have the Transformers theme in my head because of you, but that's battling Joni Mitchell's Pave Paradise (Put up a Parking Lot) thanks to Miss Joanie. <br /><br />Joan: You are hilarious. Never change. <br /><br />Fred: Excellent points as usual. I've really enjoyed reading all of these thoughts on Sawyer and seeing the varying degrees of opinion on the guy. <br /><br />Teebore: Another Wesley fan. I need to do some posts on him. ;) What a story arc... it still boggles the mind.Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-85468599372989870792010-11-02T21:06:46.779-04:002010-11-02T21:06:46.779-04:00Hello everyone! I don't know if anyone's s...Hello everyone! I don't know if anyone's still checking out this comments board, but I've had the most insanely busy week and haven't had a chance to read the ongoing comments until now, and it's been such a delight reading through them for the past half hour or so!! And I've missed SO MUCH! Geez, Nikki, stay on your own board. (But see how much I just trust you guys to chat without me having to check in?) ;) <br /><br />Erin, thank you for that review. I honestly didn't see your note here and just went onto Amazon that day to check for reviews for the first time since it had come out, and imagine my surprise to see one there! So I was super-excited, and didn't even get your warning!<br /><br />paleoblues: Thank you for your comments about the book. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. :) I'm kind of on pins and needles for this last one waiting for reviews, worried people won't like it. But I'm like that with every book, so... <br /><br />Marebabe: OMG, I'm so sorry you've broken your leg! How awful. And absolutely, if you want to post your name or email or whatever you like here, be my guest. It's completely up to you. I hope you're feeling better. Take this opportunity to pick up a new series on DVD and kick back! (May I suggest Buffy or The Wire? Heehee...)Nikki Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04463618183850438914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-11371247125876168002010-11-02T20:35:17.513-04:002010-11-02T20:35:17.513-04:00Thanks Lisa! I'm totally with you on chest hai...Thanks Lisa! I'm totally with you on chest hair. Got that, guys? Ladies love chest hair!Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-2089661492896203032010-11-02T16:21:28.310-04:002010-11-02T16:21:28.310-04:00Sorry typo...lostinyoureyes, not losyinyoureyes. ...Sorry typo...lostinyoureyes, not losyinyoureyes. Oy.Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-41496065907239829422010-11-02T16:20:17.108-04:002010-11-02T16:20:17.108-04:00@losyinyoureyes: I'm here. Hope I'm not ...@losyinyoureyes: I'm here. Hope I'm not too late. LOL, love your office. Are they hiring? Sounds like my kind of environment. I'm with you, that Jack sounds like a great guy. I heard he even looked good with his shirt off too -- before he shaved his chest for some crazy reason. I do like dimples, but not when they're used for just charm amidst sarcasm. Kate sounds pretty smart, playing the two like that, but it might just get her in trouble with the boss. The names Jin and Sayid sound foreign, which means accents, and I love guys with accents.Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-33332207875117100992010-11-02T15:08:14.793-04:002010-11-02T15:08:14.793-04:00What! No one's here? Well then, let me take th...What! No one's here? Well then, let me take the opportunity to continue my rant about Sawyer, my fictional coworker.<br /><br />Another thing that annoys me is how Sawyer is SO envious of this guy I like, Jack. He feels really inferior around Jack, because he IS inferior to Jack. I heart Jack. Jack is the guy, the first day this group got together, everyone confused and scared, calmed them all down and said inspiring words that helped everyone get along and do their best. He helped a lot of people. And where was Sawyer? Outside, having a smoke. Jeesh! During an office picnic, Sawyer once challenged Jack to ping-pong. Do you know what he said to him? "At least there's something I can beat you at!" Give me a break! Oh, and when Jack has to be gone for a while, and Sawyer is the leader, guess what he says to Jack when he sees him next? He's all, "I'm a better leader than you because I read and I don't act impetuously." Yick! Ya know, good leaders don't make a point of announcing that they're good leaders, especially when the statement is designed to hurt! And by the way, you are impetuous. Remember how you got your gun taken by Ana Lucia? Oh, yeah, how did your "reading" help you there, huh? And one time your actions actually got some people killed (okay, we're not going to even talk about that). But, Sawyer, why take it out on Jack? He's been good to you. OK, granted he had you tortured once, but only because you were so darn stubborn about that whole "inhaler" thing. Other than that, he's been kind to you, or at least he's tried. And remember when you had those headaches? HE'S the one who figured out you needed glasses and got them for you. ARE YOU CONSTITUTIONALLY UNABLE TO SAY "THANK YOU"?<br /><br />Another thing: there's this woman who works in the office, her name is Kate, and she kinda likes both Jack and Sawyer. But Jack can get kinda aloof, and VERY serious about work, so Kate goes to Sawyer a lot, because he's ALWAYS available. But now there's this new chick, Juliet, who, personally I think is too good for Sawyer, but the relationship seems to be going places, so who knows? Anyway, Kate obviously likes Jack better, so I think it's all going to work out just fine.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-3702441473218727862010-11-01T17:30:35.071-04:002010-11-01T17:30:35.071-04:00Marebabe, so sorry. May the Island heal you from a...Marebabe, so sorry. May the Island heal you from afar.<br /><br />Sawyer as character: He gave the story some needed balance. He was never part of some overarching mystery. You never wondered who he was supposed to "represent," as in a Christ or Satan: He was just, a guy. According to a DVD commentary, the writers adapted the character to Holloway's own personal style, eschewing the original plan to have Sawyer as a well dressed, upstate NY con man. They did well. Adding a southerner to the mix rounds out the ethnic and cultural color that works so well.<br /><br />That's Sawyer as a character. Moving on to Sawyer as a person, well, let me just imagine myself as, say, a newcomer to an office, where all the Losties are my new coworkers. Sawyer would annoy the heck out of me. He'd be all, "Look at me, I'm so cute. See my dimples?" I'd be rolling my eyes all day. Then, I'd finally get used to him, and he'd be okay. He'd give me some laughs to make my day brighter, and he'd be kind of a bud. But oh man, when that guy Jack comes around and gives me an assignment, I'd be a dish of wiggling Jello! And when Jack's out of the office, I'd be visiting Sayid's cubicle a lot. <br /><br />Now if this fictional workplace of mine had a policy where it's OK for guys to take their shirts off, but it's only one guy a day, I'd be hoping for Jin's turn!Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-87814846205836609832010-11-01T16:47:14.827-04:002010-11-01T16:47:14.827-04:00@Nikki. I'll be back here shortly, after I'...@Nikki. I'll be back here shortly, after I've thought through what I want to say about Redneck Man, but I want to take this opportunity to thank you for the S6 book and tell you I'm enjoying it, and WILL leave a review after I've read more. It's a nice, thick book with a lot of good stuff.<br /><br />vw: coyew. When someone gets disgustingly flirtatious.Linda345https://www.blogger.com/profile/14686832191040401466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-40685095144753050342010-11-01T10:26:38.153-04:002010-11-01T10:26:38.153-04:00@Fred: I am sure the tone of the series would have...@Fred: <i>I am sure the tone of the series would have changed to something less warm and approachable, indeed, LOST might have become too intellectualized without the more human qualitites of Sawyer. </i><br /><br />As always, well said. This comment especially reminds me of season five and Sawyer's interactions with Daniel. Without Sawyer there to provide an audience proxy for Daniel to explain all the time travel stuff to and to react the most humanly to the concept of jumping through time (like his thank you/damn you reaction during the outrigger chase), it's likely season five would have been swallowed up by its more sci-fi trappings.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-36666581866087549082010-10-31T14:41:47.626-04:002010-10-31T14:41:47.626-04:00While coming late to this Sawyer-fest, I feel some...While coming late to this Sawyer-fest, I feel something significant about the character needs being said; namely, that Sawyer is a character most of the audience can identify with. No, not in the sense of "Gee, he's just like me," but more in the sense of "He pushes the right buttons in my psyche." <br /><br />Now, if Hurley, and the writers admit to it, was more representative of the audience, asking <i>our</i> questions, delivering comic dialogue for <i>our</i> enjoyment, a veritable modern Costello to the main character Jack/Abott, then Sawyer served as a more approachable character than say Jack or Locke. <br /><br />We adored Locke, loved each time he had a flashback episode, and pondered over some of his more than Zen lines, but his character evolved through 3 stages: (1) all knowing hunter, independent go it alone survivalist with ages of wisdom, (2) the "Losing My Religion" man of faith counter to Jack "Man of Science" that made up much of the seasons 1-4 dramatic conflict, and (3) the existential broken man of Season 5. In some sense, Locke was always a character to watch from a bit of a distance, but his character was always <i>proven</i> through his actions.<br /><br />Natch, Sawyer was a man of action, but never of the grand action or superhero gesture. Sawyer's action always took on a more human dimension--his snarky remarks, his nicknames, and his witticisms were always at the human level, drawn from a love of popular culture, a play on words, and stereotypes (think of the humour in the lines Sawyer teaches Jin when they are drinking Dharma beer at the van). It was a part of enjoyment for the audience, and a weakness that could be exploited--no kryptonite to deflate Sawyer, just ping pong against Hurley.<br /><br />Sawyer's approach to the group can be summarized in one word, community. Over the course of the seasons, Sawyer evolves a greater sense of community with his fellow survivors. Locke may bring in a boar to feed the group, but it seems more like a job. When Sawyer is tricked into hunting with Desmond, and brings back the boar, we see him engaging with everyone. As Hurley points out, Sawyer made everyone feel better about their situation--this is more than just food on the table, but community. And Sawyer carries this lesson with him into the past when he becomes the Head of Security at the Dharma village. <br /><br />At the same time, Sawyer deals with very human challenges. When he is led to the cliff edge by Ben, he references <i>Of Mice and Men</i>. Sawyer, here, contrasts with Locke's broken man, a man whose love died from an aneurism years ago unknown to him. The chance for love is denied Locke, but that possibility is still afforded Sawyer--and even though it fails with Kate, it succeeds with Juliet. The door is always left a little open for Sawyer, so that even after Juliet's death there is still something for Sawyer to fall back on, the saving of the remaining survivors (again the sense of community). <br /><br />There is an overall shift in Sawyer exemplified by his shift from "I'm in the wild, doc," to bringing his people into a community (the "I kept them alive for three years"). Sawyer's growing awareness of the value of community provides points of identification for us as viewers, while his humanness towards others (even in snarky nicknames) makes him a charcater whose presence we enjoy and certainly identify with. Had Pickett shot Sawyer at the cages, I am sure the tone of the series would have changed to something less warm and approachable, indeed, <i>LOST</i> might have become too intellectualized without the more human qualitites of Sawyer.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474623954925835867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-58006425023239518872010-10-30T20:33:48.379-04:002010-10-30T20:33:48.379-04:00I always loved Sawyer, but I never really saw him ...I always loved Sawyer, but I never really saw him and Kate as in it for the long haul. I thought their attraction was based on them being very similar people in some ways -- but of course, the thing that attracted them eventually also pulled them apart. They were TOO much alike -- both too much fixer-uppers themselves to help anyone else.<br /><br />"Lafleur" was the first ep I downloaded to my iPod, because I completely loved Sawyer and Juliet together.<br /><br />I always enjoyed Sawyer's humor, but also was horrified at some of the things he did for revenge -- squashing the frog, humiliating Charlie and John in "The Long Con", and killing Tom at the end of season 3. He was always done in by his need for vengeance, trapped in his life-long quest to take revenge on Cooper, and even when that was over he didn't feel freed. He shot Tom after he apologized (OK, well, sort of apologized) for kidnapping Walt, because "I didn't believe him."<br /><br />Sawyer had one of the more interesting journeys of the Losties -- besides Jack, he's really the only one who changed at the core. I wonder what the rest of his life was like after he finally left the island.JenniferSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-91506340870627751432010-10-30T20:28:30.442-04:002010-10-30T20:28:30.442-04:00I think I always loved Sawyer. On the outside he ...I think I always loved Sawyer. On the outside he appeared cold and callous, yet I just knew there was a good person hidden deep inside, a side he did not feel comfortable sharing with anyone.<br />I think he evolved more than any other character. Nobody liked him and deservedly so, in season one, yet by the end, he was most everyone's friend, leader and hero.<br />After the Brig, when he was able to let go of his past and his letter, he changed. I found him really taking on more leadership and showing bravery and caring for others. He went back in season 3 to help save Sayid, Jin and Bernard, in season 4 - he ran into a burning cabin to rescue Claire and sacrificed his own rescue by jumping out of the helicopter for Kate and the others, in season 5 he became the leader of the group left behind and in Dharmaville, fell in love and tragically lost his true love. We know he would never have let go of Juliet.<br />In season 6, his story I felt was almost already told. He grieved appropriately for Juliet...I for one am so glad that didn't go back to Kate.<br />My favourite Sawyer episodes were season one "confidence man", and season 5 "Lafleur". I just love the scene where he's happy strolling around Dharma town picking a flower to bring home to Juliet. Aww so sweet.LRTFaradaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-88726786883389774662010-10-30T14:28:56.252-04:002010-10-30T14:28:56.252-04:00Thanks, Question Mark and Joan for your concern an...Thanks, Question Mark and Joan for your concern and well wishes. It was a falling-off-the-front-porch accident. I now suddenly wish it had been a riding accident. That sounds way cooler! What I did was not in the least bit cool.<br /><br />I am so very much better today (Saturday), but there’s no denying I’m still at the beginning of a very long road to full recovery. I’m being a good girl and keeping weight off the busted leg, and I’m also being well looked after and prayed for, which helps immeasurably.<br /><br />I hope I’m not out of line to issue a Facebook friend request here on Nikki’s site. I’ve succeeded in connecting with a few of you Nik at Niters, but it’s hard when I don’t know a person’s real name. Nikki, if you say it’s OK to post my email address here, I’ll do it, but ONLY if you approve. There’s quite a bit of discussion about my accident on Facebook, and that is a much more appropriate place for such a topic.Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-3659902784588740242010-10-30T12:52:59.463-04:002010-10-30T12:52:59.463-04:00@Lisa(until further notice) said...
Maybe Sawyer...@Lisa(until further notice) said... <br /><br />Maybe Sawyer was ambidextrous. He could mirror both hands. Maybe the grade school he attended as a young boy emphasized right handed habits, but Sawyer was a rebel and we know that he did not like to follow the rules.sknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-3777506523097606582010-10-30T01:06:35.612-04:002010-10-30T01:06:35.612-04:00@Teebore - Thanks! I am used to yelling down alley...<b>@Teebore</b> - Thanks! I am used to yelling down alley-ways and at inanimate objects...so it's nice to get some real human feed back.Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-14990259840177683732010-10-30T01:01:01.217-04:002010-10-30T01:01:01.217-04:00@Erin - Aw, thanks, Lady! I am glad you enjoyed th...<b>@Erin</b> - Aw, thanks, Lady! I am glad you enjoyed that - I seek to entertain* :)<br /><br /><b>@Marebabe</b> - Oh no! What happened? It is hard to break a leg, was it a riding accident? I hope you feel better soon!<br /><br /><b>@LittleMo</b> - <i>...I think the truer love was between Jack and Kate and also Sawyer and Juliet.</i><br /><br />I completely agree with you. My post became a weird story from a sad, dispirited but wise woman I call "Tess". Her catch phrase is <b>"Screw you guys for judging me!"</b> She's a gem. You can see her emerge right around the Editor's Note part. That wasn't me, it was Tess. So you see, it all makes sense in the end!<br /><br /><i>*In that I am desperate for attention and approval, as are all joke-tellers.</i>Joan Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04513335615114222374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-24387447219081846272010-10-29T17:10:38.764-04:002010-10-29T17:10:38.764-04:00One thing I have wanted to point out for a long ti...One thing I have wanted to point out for a long time may as well be here as it pertains to Sawyer. This is a blooper/continuity error that is not really a big deal but has always kind of bugged me. When we see Jacob handing young James Ford the pen with which to write his note to Mr. Sawyer, the actor portraying young James writes the letter with his right hand, but Sawyer/Josh Holloway is a leftie. I know. Big whoop. Just a comment.Lisa(until further notice)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-7481313396336990262010-10-29T17:03:32.627-04:002010-10-29T17:03:32.627-04:00Honestly, Sawyer was probably my second or third f...Honestly, Sawyer was probably my second or third favorite character on the show, larger because, other than maybe Jack, his character developed the most in the course of the show. Plus, I'm a sucker for watching the development of reluctant leader-types. <br /><br />I've never considered myself a shipper, but I definitely bought into the Sawyer/Juliet relationship, especially since it seemed to add to the narrative instead of distracting from it (like all the Kate shipper business seemed to). <br /><br />@Joan: You continue to crack me the hell up. <br /><br />Oh, and Nikki? Off topic, but <i>Wesley went from a bumbling slapstick punchline to one of the most extraordinarily realized characters I've ever seen on a TV show. </i>? <br /><br />I couldn't agree more.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-45006026731254246492010-10-29T14:54:04.228-04:002010-10-29T14:54:04.228-04:00Yes - Sawyer certainly was complex and the 'ba...Yes - Sawyer certainly was complex and the 'badness' inside him makes him more interesting to watch. <br />The heroes and good characters in a series (like Jack) can, at times, get boring to watch, and its the spicey, complex and bad characters like Sawyer that are much more interesting to watch and follow - because you never know what will happen to them or what they will do next. <br /><br />Its certainly good to do a rewatch now we know all we do about him. You watch the early scenes with new eyes. <br />And the nicknames still make me smile<br /><br />I agree with Amy - when Sawyer told Jack of his conversation with his father that really showed the humanity that was buried deep inside him. We also saw that when he jumped from the helicopter<br /><br />Joan Crawford - I think Kate and Sawyer had a powerful attraction but that doesn't always equal a deep love. I think the truer love was between Jack and Kate and also Sawyer and Juliet.<br /><br />I think the great thing about lost is that (despite what many would say) there is no single central character but a whole group of them and Sawyer is right there in amongst that group. <br /><br />(to me the leading group are Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, Sayid and Hurley. But I'm sure some of you out there would disagree :-)Littlemonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-88520479107935932512010-10-29T14:42:33.420-04:002010-10-29T14:42:33.420-04:00@ MAREBABE: Ouch! That happened to me last summer!...@ MAREBABE: Ouch! That happened to me last summer! Hope you get better soon!The Question Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-87963294373933669312010-10-29T13:44:53.173-04:002010-10-29T13:44:53.173-04:00Good discussion, everyone! I don't have anythi...Good discussion, everyone! I don't have anything to add, and I just want to say that the reason I didn't jump on here last night is that I broke my leg yesterday, and I was pretty out of it. Doing some better today!Marebabenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30892649.post-21102443949665245682010-10-29T12:21:05.756-04:002010-10-29T12:21:05.756-04:00Re Rewatch: Is there a possibility of rewatching j...Re Rewatch: Is there a possibility of rewatching just Season 6 now that the book is out (which I've already read cover to cover, but have no one to talk to about it)? Just a thought.paleoblueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098848867397221344noreply@blogger.com