Seriously, how many people saw this kid and went, "Who the hell is that?!" |
This week my co-writer, Christopher Lockett, will start us off.
Christopher: Though we ranged all over Westeros in this episode, it felt in the
end like the prominent narrative thread was Jon Snow’s. Certainly, the final
shot of him and Ygritte kissing atop the Wall conveyed that idea, and while I
admit to cringing just a little at the heavy-handed romanticism of the
moment—made all the more jarring by how out of place it felt in this series—we
know that there’s no such thing as unalloyed happiness in Westeros, and soon
Jon Snow’s conflicted loyalties will complicate things rather a lot. Or, as
Theon’s torturer puts it, “If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t
been paying attention.”
What I found interesting about the Jon Snow
/ Ygritte storyline this episode was the way Ygritte framed the question of
loyalty. It reminded me of E.M Forster’s famous line, “If I had to choose
between betraying my country and betraying my friend I hope I should have the
guts to betray my country.” The tension between personal relationships and
devotion to a larger cause was a theme running through much of this episode. It
is, really, the tension between the concrete and the abstract, between what one
lives on a personal basis and the larger, often byzantine superstructure of
ideology and politics, and the oaths and obligations they entail. Jon Snow
learned honour at his father’s knee, and Ned Stark was one of the most
honourable men in Westeros—to a fault, and to his demise. Jon took the black as
a result of a combination of idealism, honour, and neglect, joining the Night’s
Watch at least in part because his bastardy meant he would never rise to any
prominence otherwise. But as we have seen, he idolized Ned and took all his
lessons about leadership, loyalty and honour to heart.
But not so much that he didn’t attempt to
desert when he heard of Ned’s execution in season one, only brought back by his
friends. “Honour set you on the Kingsroad,” Commander Mormont said then. “And
honour brought you back.” “My friends brought me back.” “I didn’t say it was your
honour.” The Night’s Watch was, and remains, his new family.
But Ygritte is a spoiler, for she
represents a form of love Jon has never experienced; and we know from his story
about his one abortive experience at a brothel that he is no seducer. Ygritte
sees more clearly than her fellow wildlings, in part because she understands
Jon Snow, and she knows that one such as he would never turn his cloak. But she
also sees in him the power that a personal bond has, and personal love—love
that was strong enough to make him desert in season one, and she believes that,
though he’ll not betray the Night’s Watch, he’s also incapable of betraying her. “I’m your woman right now,” she
says. “You’re going to be loyal to your woman.” Their commanders and leaders,
she points out, care nothing for them—for them, they’re just pieces in the
game, just “soldiers in their armies.” They don’t matter to their leaders, but
“with you and me, it matters to me and you. Don’t ever betray me.”
And however uncharacteristically
sentimental the last shot of the episode was, its moment of happiness is
cruelly undercut by the memory of the Brotherhood’s betrayal of
Gendry—something that does not occur in the novels. At no point in the books is
there a meeting between Melissandre and Thoros, and Gendry is not sold. Which
makes the moment somewhat more significant in the show, for it specifically
contrasts Ygritte’s trust in Jon Snow’s personal loyalty. Previously, Gendry
avowed that he was done with serving and being loyal to inconstant leaders,
preferring instead the familial egalitarianism of the Brotherhood. His
betrayal—for purely pragmatic reasons—reminds us rather sharply of two sad
realities: that Ygritte’s ethos about personal loyalty is just as uncertain as
the caprices of the powerful; and that betrayal by those close to you is
infinitely crueler than betrayal by an ideal.
What did you think of this episode, Nikki?
Nikki: You and I picked up on exactly the same overarching theme of this
episode. I felt like it could have been subtitled, “If you think this has a
happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.” But… that would be a rather
long and unwieldy subtitle, so…
I also disliked the overly sentimental
ending between Ygritte and Jon (though I like that Gareth has made a serious
enemy of both of them), and thought the special effects might have been the
worst I’ve seen on the show. For the most part, I think the effects are
spectacular, as opposed to the local cable network green-screen look of Once Upon a Time, but when the camera
pulled back you could see the Wall in the foreground just not lining up with
the fake scenery in the back, and it looked cheap. That’s a very, very tiny
nitpick about an otherwise excellent episode.
Seriously, I think I've seen that mural in a Children's First Bible. |
The episode opened with Sam and Gilly. Both
have betrayed their groups and set out together, with him remaining loyal to
her, and her doing what she has to in order to save her son. (I’m looking
forward to the memes involving Gilly telling Sam to use less wood to make her
hot. There’s a joke in there somewhere, but someone else will have to make it.)
Sam is incredibly charming in this scene, showing both his aptitude as a poet —
he tells her that the Wall is 700 feet high, made of ice, and “on a warm day,
you can see it weeping” — and with children, when he sings a lullaby to put the
baby to sleep. A lullaby that, to be honest, seems to have a harsh irony to it
considering what Gilly’s father was actually like (as opposed to the father in
this song), but a sweet lullaby nonetheless.
Theon is also getting a harsh lesson in
betrayal and loyalty. In episode 4 he trusted his “saviour” so much that he
spilled his guts on what he really thought of his father, how he felt about the
Starks, and revealed that Rickon and Bran were both, in fact, still very much
alive. Or, at least they were the last time he saw them. But then his new
confidante betrayed him in the most horrific turn I think we’ve seen yet on the
show, and he’s back where he started. Now, in a room with his now-torturer, he
plays the game of “guess who I am” with the boy, with his little finger taking
the brunt of the cringe-inducing result of the game. Despite the boy turning on
him and proving himself false, Theon is lulled back again into thinking he’s
right about something, that he’s guessed where he is, who the boy is, and who
his family is. As viewers, we’re stunned that this boy is actually a Karstark,
the son of the man that Robb Stark beheaded in the previous episode. And… then
it’s not true. The boy played his part to the hilt, just as he’d done before,
and then leapt up, pronounced himself a liar, and went to town on Theon’s
little finger. If nothing else, he’s going to teach Theon why you should never
EVER trust another living soul.
And in further broken loyalties, members of
the House Frey have shown up to confront Robb Stark about betraying the oath
and alliance he previous made with them so they could make the Crossing back in
season 1. They’re willing to let it be water under the bridge [rim shot] as long as
Robb’s uncle marries one of the daughters instead. The uncle doesn’t want to
marry a daughter at all, and Robb gives him a big lecture about loyalty and
oaths and the good of the nation and I just wanted to smack him the entire
time. While what he said had some merit, it seems more than a tad hypocritical
coming from him, the guy who married a field nurse after the oath had been
sworn. In fact, I think Robb’s made a lot of mistakes and seems to be handling
leadership rather badly. In season 1, I think most viewers were on side with
the Starks, but now, Robb comes off as grossly inefficient and ineffective, and
part of me wants to see him fall in battle just so another Stark can step up to
the plate as the head of that family. Arya could certainly bring some honour
back to them, and considering Sansa had the gall to ask if her family would be
invited to the wedding, let’s just quietly snuff her out for sheer stupidity,
shall we?
I know people have said Sansa, at least, is
more interesting in the books. How does Robb fare, Chris? Is his portrayal on
the show accurate?
Christopher:
I would say the show has done an excellent job of
depicting Robb. He must be a bit trickier for the writers to shape, as he
doesn’t get any POV chapters of his own, but to my mind they’ve captured him
admirably. I agree with you entirely that he’s had some major cock-ups (not
least of which was his impetuous marriage), but we should also remember how
young he is … and in the books, he’s even younger. His mistakes are the mistakes
of youth, while his successes show a more mature mind at work. But where age
and experience would smooth out the hills and valleys of impetuousness and
pride, he hasn’t quite gotten there.
It’s worth noting, so long as we’re talking
a lot about honour today, that in the novels his marriage had as much to do
with that than with the tempests of passion. In A Storm of Swords, he takes a wound in a battle and is nursed back
to health by the daughter of a noblewoman whose castle he shelters in. Over his
recuperation, she progresses from nursing to playing nurse, as it were; if Robb
were more like Robert Baratheon or, really, ninety-nine percent of the men of
Westeros, he’d have cheerfully notched his bedpost and moved on. But like Jon
Snow, Robb is his father’s son, leaving him nothing else for it but to do the
honourable thing and make an honest woman of his inadvertent conquest. We
assume that, like Jon, he must have been genuinely in love to transgress his
oath … but then, the Freys aren’t likely to forgive such weakness.
Hence, Robb’s romance with and marriage to
Talisa on the show irked me a little last season. I understand why the writers
made the change, but it detracts from the strength of Robb’s character somewhat
(though it does make his wife something more than the shrinking violet she is
in the books).
To be fair to Robb, he’s completely
cognizant of his hypocrisy and acknowledges as much to Edmure, saying “You’re
paying for my sins … It’s not fair or right.” I’m actually least sympathetic to
Edmure in this scene, if for no other reason than that his main objection
doesn’t seem to be the prospect of marrying beneath him but that he doesn’t get
to pick one of the hot chicks from Walder Frey’s brood. In the novel he
actually goes a step further, speculating darkly that Frey will probably stick
him with someone fat and toothless out of spite.
But at least Edmure has a semblance of
choice (the Blackfish’s threats to his teeth notwithstanding), which is a damn
sight better than what Tyrion, Loras, Sansa, and Cersei have in King’s Landing.
Once again, the Queen of Thorns is magnificent in her showdown with Tywin—proving
utterly blasé when Tywin tries to leverage her with a not-so-subtle allusion
Loras’ proclivities. Her frank admission is awesome enough, but her curiosity
about Tywin’s own experimentation had me cheering: “Did you grow up with boy
cousins, Lord Tywin? Sons of your father’s bannerman, squires, stableboys? … I
congratulate you upon your restraint. But it’s a natural thing, two boys having
a go at each other between the sheets … we don’t tie ourselves in knots over a
discrete bit of buggery.” And even more awesome? She turns his game around on
him: “But brothers and sisters. Where I come from, that stain would be very
difficult to wash out.” As she then points out, the sexual frolics of the
highborn matter very little; but a queen’s infidelity, incestuous or not,
throws a very large monkey wrench into the question of succession.
But in the end, the question of lineage and
the imperative of having viable heirs proves to be Olenna’s weakness: she might
not care about who Loras fucks, but she does require him, eventually, to
provide little Tyrells to carry on the family name. Thus Tywin’s threat to name
him to the Kingsguard, an order who are forbidden to marry or father
(legitimate) children, carries real weight, and the Queen of Thorns
capitulates.
This scene was not, I should note, in the
novel—nor for that matter is the plan to marry Cersei to Loras. In the books,
Loras has an older brother named Wyllas, a gentle soul who has a club foot
because of an injury sustained at a tournament in his youth. It is to Wyllas
that Olenna plots to marry Sansa, and after that plan is rumbled by the
Lannisters, it is to him that Tywin means to give Cersei. Loras is named to the
Kingsguard immediately after the Battle of the Blackwater.
What did you think of this game of
marriages, Nikki?
Nikki: How interesting! Out of curiosity, how old is Robb Stark in the
book? I find their ages rather hard to determine on the show. He could be in
his late twenties or early thirties for all you can tell on the show, but I
gather from what you’re saying he’s a teenager in the books or thereabouts? And
I agree with you that the story of his conquest in the book is far more sympathetic
than the Talisa story here.
I should note, however, that I’ve never
begrudged him that marriage; only the hypocrisy with which he looks upon
Edmure, completely shocked that he won’t do it. He does, as you say, admit as
much, but it doesn’t make it any better. And I also agree with you that
regardless of Robb’s hypocrisy, Edmure is always the least sympathetic person
in the room. Tobias Menzies just has that way about him (he was even on Doctor Who a couple of weeks ago,
playing a spineless shit over there, too).
The Olenna/Tywin scene was absolutely
delicious. As I watched it, my husband and I kept going, “Oooooohh… OOOOOHHHH…”
as they lobbed one hardball after another at each other. It was like watching
two skilled fencers parrying, or two grandmasters playing chess. Olenna clearly
has the upper hand for most of the conversation (her comment about the incest
was FANTASTIC), but as you say, Tywin comes in for the checkmate. It’s
interesting that he doesn’t deny Cersei and Jaime’s relationship, but instead
says that if this is true, then Joffrey isn’t the king, and the Tyrells are
throwing their best girl to someone who’s not the rightful heir. ALL TRUE, of
course, but it simply can’t be, not if she wants to carry on the family name,
as you say. Just a brilliant scene. Diana Rigg has equalled Peter Dinklage now:
they’re the two people I want in every episode, verbally sparring with another
person. And both of them have done so with Tywin… and lost.
In addition to the dialogue you quoted, I
want to add how much I loved it that
when Tywin first hints at Loras’s proclivities, Olenna waves it all away with a
“Yes, yes, he’s a sword swallower through and through.” HAHAHA!!!
Another scene worth noting, of course,
linking to this one, is Tyrion and Cersei together. These two have been locking
horns since the first season, but now they find themselves joined together in
this horrible betrayal by their father. Tyrion asks who of the four of them is
getting the worst deal, and if you look at it that way, no one wins. Sansa ends up with a Lannister, a family she hates,
and the imp at that. Tyrion is deeply in love with Shae, and has to marry Sansa
instead. Cersei is once again thrown into a political marriage, but this time
it’s not with a boor, it’s with a man who has no attraction to her whatsoever
because he’s gay. And Loras has to be tied down to a woman who is older than he
is, belongs to a family he despises, and is, well, a woman. Loras embraces the
idea of wedding Sansa, because he knows that Sansa is stupid and seems to be
the only person in all of King’s Landing who hasn’t figured out he’s gay. He
knows he’ll marry her and continue to climb into bed with other men. But will
that be as easy with Cersei? And will he enjoy being the stepfather of the most
evil little shit in Westeros? Mmm… no.
Tyrion uses this moment of weakness in
Cersei to finally get to the bottom of what happened during the battle. She
admits that he saved the city with the wildfire, and he realizes that Joffrey
was the one who put the order through to have him killed. Cersei refers to
Margaery as Joffrey’s little “doe-eyed whore,” and then the two of them look
off into the distance together as they realize they are united in the sense
that, as Cersei puts it, “We’re all being shipped off to hell together.” Oh,
and the fact that they both believe Jaime is coming back, and they are both
fiercely loyal to him.
This scene leads right into Tyrion having
to tell Sansa what the hell has been going on, and the end of the episode moves
very, very quickly, as Tyrion breaks the news to Sansa with Shae standing right there, Baelish and Varys
talk about the throne and chaos and OH MY GOD JOFFREY HAS SAINT SEBASTIANED ROS
RIGHT THERE IN HIS ROOM WTF?! and Sansa stands weeping on the shore as Littlefinger’s
boat rides away, without her on it. Yikes.
So let’s back up a bit, and focus on
Baelish and Varys’s final conversation. I know you’re dying to talk about this,
Chris, so I’ll give you the floor to get it started.
Christopher:
I am in fact dying to talk about it, not least
because of Aiden Gillen’s chilling delivery … but mostly because it represents
something of a shift from the Littlefinger of the novels. Petyr Baelish is
unctuous, slippery, and treacherous in the books, to be certain, but not
entirely unsympathetic. GRRM plays his cards close to the vest with
Littlefinger, but allows us hints of a wistful humanity hidden under his
long-forged armour of cynical cunning. In the novels we come to understand that
one of his crucial impetuses for everything he has done is the torch he still
carries for Catelyn—and that he sees much of her in Sansa. There are, as in the
series, a lot of creepy interchanges between him and Sansa, but we’re led to
believe he’s actually working to help her as much as himself. (Of course, this
might all prove to be false).
Conversely, the series seems to have made a
definitive choice about Baelish’s character, best summed up in Varys’ bleak pronouncement
that “He’d see the realm burn if he could be king of the ashes.” There isn’t
much to redeem him at this point, not after we’ve had half a season to get to
know Ros with her clothes on and develop an emotional investment in her
character. As we all know, GRRM is notorious for killing off his characters,
often in shocking and surprising ways; the final montage of this episode
demonstrated that the writers have learned that lesson well. The image of
Joffrey lovingly fingering his crossbow was creepy enough, but as he rises and
the camera pans left I realized an instant before we see Ros (incidentally, in
my notes I have written “Holy St. Sebastian!”) which “client” Littlefinger had
given her to.
His interchange with Varys begins as these
fencing matches have since the series began—a few jabs and feints, the kind of
I-loathe-you-politely banter we’ve come to expect. Initially, their point of
discussion is about the stories we tell, and the way certain narratives work to
cohere the body politics. Varys believes in the power of symbolism, and in the
value of subordinating oneself to an idea. But the moment he acknowledges that
he serves “the Realm,” Littlefinger’s snark turns into outright contempt. The
“realm,” he sneers, is “a story we agree to tell each other over and over again
until we forget that it’s a lie.”
As I listened to Littlefinger’s words, I
wrote in my notes “Bet he has Atlas
Shrugged on his bedside table.” Because the speech that follows is pure Ayn
Rand: “Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and
never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb
but they refuse. They cling to the realm. Or the Gods. Or love. Illusions. Only
the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.” What differentiates the
Littlefinger on the show from the Littlefinger of the novels is precisely this
Randian radical individualism—the “objectivism” of believing that the only
concrete and therefore moral choice in life is pure self-interest. Hence the
contempt in his voice when he rebukes Varys’ ostensible altruism.
Of course, Littlefinger’s speech ends with
“The climb is all there is” spoken over the image of Jon Snow’s ice ax
summiting the Wall. As Jon and Ygritte drag themselves up, gasping, and gaze
down at the thrift shop landscape painting vista to the south, we have
reason enough to see the poverty of Littlefinger’s philosophy. Orell cut Jon
and Ygritte loose to save himself; but Jon chooses not to do the same, instead
risking himself to save his lover.
Any last thoughts, Nikki?
Nikki: So well put. Littlefinger has pretty much thrown everything to the
wind to serve his own needs. He’s the epitome of someone climbing over the
heads of others to get to the top, and he’ll stop at nothing, clearly. In
season 1, he seemed like a wrench in the plans of the others moving across the chessboard
to the Iron Throne. Now, he’s one of the pieces, working his way up as if he
believes he has as much right to sit there as anyone else. When the Freys
demand Harrenhal early in the episode, I rubbed my hands together and thought, “Oh,
this’ll be good,” because we know that that is now Littlefinger’s domain, and
he’s fought hard to get it. With so much parrying and movement among the
parties, I can’t even begin to comprehend how GRRM is planning to fit all of this
into a mere seven books, regardless of how long they are. This game has no end
that I can see.
Thanks again for joining us, Chris, and we’ll
see you all next week!
3 comments:
Arya —
I'm so looking forward to her getting to chart her own destiny, kick ass, and take names (off her list).
"Face... Tits... Balls... I hit 'im right where I wanted to."
Jamie —
NCW really sells Jamie's simultaneous pride and slapstick. He's been captured, stripped of one of his strongest innate assets (his tongue and his sword hand; the Lannister name helps but isn't his own doing), humiliated, mutually indebted to Brienne, and here he is continuing to be his jaunty, stubborn self.
"I would've hoped you'd learned your lesson about overplaying your... position."
Robb —
He sure seemed to get off easy, but I'm a little more with Christopher than Nikki in terms of my sympathy for him. It ain't boundless, though.
Theon & Friend —
Here's a question: When Theon's sociopathic captor said he was a liar, was he referring to what he'd told Theon about himself or just to the fact that he'd stop the torture if Theon guessed right?
Littlefinger —
We really see him all in this week, soliloquizing to Varys in Alex Denisof's slithery British voice as the eyes in his Gary Oldman face glint with cold fire.
Joffrey and Baelish being in cahoots is just about the creepiest thing imaginable on this show. I can almost see a series of totally depraved webisodes featuring Littlefinger, Joffrey, and Theon's Guide to Lifestyles of the Sick and Painful sitting around trying to one-up each other with anecdotes or hypothetical miseries. "Should we invite Varys next time? He found the guy who cut off his balls and keeps him in a box." "That's awesome — I think he kind-of has a conscience, though." "Oh well."
Bran —
I kept waiting for him to ask if what happened to Jojen was going to happen to him. Then I remembered that this series often doesn't tell when it can show and the terror on his face spoke volumes.
Cersei & Tyrion —
It's actually funny to see these schemers who so recently were jockeying for Tywin's favor joined in their misery. I particularly feel for Tyrion as he susses out the latest cruelty in an unfair life. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend, no wait he's my father and he's our collective enemy, so my enemy who is my sister is now my friend and oh shit I have to break the news to that poor girl who thinks she's going to sail away from here and still believes old direwolves actually retire to a farm in Qarth."
Ygritte —
It seemed to me like while she was saying that, above all, they had to be true to one another, there was more than a strong hint that sticking with the wildlings rather than delivering them to the "crows" was Jon's smarter bet (if only circumstantially). Of course, I miss stuff.
Sansa —
I wanted to take down all the dialogue between her and her pseudo-suitor, then her and Shae. It was just totally hilarious.
"Loras likes green and gold brocade."
"I'm sure he does."
Great analysis once again. The examination of the two Littlefinger's in particular was illuminating.
@Nikki: ...and thought the special effects might have been the worst I’ve seen on the show.
Huh. I actually thought they were pretty decent. I really liked that closing shot, of Jon and Ygritte astride two worlds, and I usually have a decent eye for that stuff (like all the shoddy CGI on Once Upon a Time). Oh well.
@Blam
"Theon & Friend —
Here's a question: When Theon's sociopathic captor said he was a liar, was he referring to what he'd told Theon about himself or just to the fact that he'd stop the torture if Theon guessed right?"
He was probably referring to both, but the important piece was that, yes, he was lying about Theon guessing right. He is not a Karstark :)
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