Hello and welcome to Week 2 of our Game of Thrones book club, where we'll be discussing pp. 160-323 in the mass market version; pp. 134-271 of the trade paperback (starting with BRAN "It seemed as though he'd been falling for years...") Here we go!
Christopher: What strikes me most on rereading this section is how it develops
the mystery plot, and how that plays into our expectations. I suppose the
anticipation must be different when you read A Game of Thrones now, knowing that there’s another four novels in
the series and two yet-to-be-written after that; but when I read it many moons
ago, when GRRM hadn’t written any of the others and was still under the
illusion it would be a trilogy, there was a definite anticipation built into
Ned playing the detective. It’s a clever little bit of genre-tweaking on GRRM’s
part, as murder mysteries build to closure—a rather shrewd little bit of
misdirection, when you think of it, making us that much more stunned when not
only do we get closure on this little caper, but the rulebooks of both mystery and fantasy fiction get emphatically
defenestrated.
I’m also impressed at just how the motif of
bastardy surfaces again (and again and again). Like Shakespeare’s history
plays, A Game of Thrones (itself
loosely based on the Wars of the Roses) is preoccupied with blood, lineage, and
patrilineal descent. Who your father was defines you indelibly in this world;
and where in Shakespeare bastards like Edmund and Falconbridge, or Don John in Much Ado, are almost invariably villainous,
driven to evil out of resentment or given over to it by their “tainted” blood,
GRRM deliberately troubles this convention with such characters as Jon Snow and
Gendry. Ned’s investigation of Robert’s bastards is a particularly cruel task
for him, reminding him of his own relationship with Jon, and prodding him with
the concern that he did not do right by him. Certainly, Jon always fared much
better in Winterfell under Ned than any of Robert’s bastards have—and though
Jon’s relationship with Catelyn was always frosty, she is much more forgiving
than Cersei (as we shall see later on).
It is also interesting how bastardy, at
this point in the novel, is explicitly associated with the colour black: Jon
snow is described as having black hair, in contrast to Robb’s auburn, and
Robert’s bastards all share his own dark locks. The Wall itself comprises the
Seven Kingdom’s castoffs, and as we come to understand the skepticism, mockery,
and indeed contempt in which the Night’s Watch is held by most people south of
the neck, it itself comes to be a metaphor for bastardy. This association is
also something found in Shakespeare, with his various bastards often described
in terms of blackness and darkness. Throughout this second section, as indeed
throughout the entire novel, the drama in King’s Landing finds its counterpoint
on the Wall—a contrast that is more marked in A Game of Thrones than in the rest of the series so far, mainly
because the geography of the narratives hasn’t yet expanded to the extent it
will. This contrast is thus especially stark (pardon the pun) at this point,
between the monochromatic palette of the North and the sumptuous colour of the
south, the sensual riot of sensations in King’s Landing versus the literal
numbness at the Wall. How do you think these contrasts work? Are you finding
them more or less vivid in the novel as opposed to the series?
Nikki: I think the contrasts work brilliantly, and this section continues
to astound me insofar as how faithful to the novels the show really was. On the
show as in the books, King’s Landing is full of colour, whereas the Wall is
white and black, as you say. Winterfell is in the middle, very grey and stark
(pun intended). The metaphor is well taken, with the Wall being the place where
things are either good or bad; King’s Landing the place where a happy face is
put on everything despite the seamy underbelly of the place, and Winterfell a
place where who is good and who is bad is never clear.
Just as in show, I can see why fans were
already whispering about Ned Stark being a dumbass. “Hm… look at this
dark-haired lad here in the shop, the very picture of Robert Baratheon. Why
would Jon Arryn have taken the time to worry about this guy, when Robert has
all those lovely golden-haired children of his own at home? Is there something I am missing??!!” ;)
Apparently, in King’s Landing, one does not simply come to an obvious
conclusion. Ahem.
I would like to look at Sansa again, and
how once again I have far more sympathy for her here than in the show. On HBO,
she looks like this vapid girl glancing around the room, seeing what is really
going on, and choosing to ignore it for glory and riches. But here, she’s a
girl who is in puberty, taken over by the beautiful men on horses handing her
roses, heart fluttering as Joffrey dares to look in her direction, dreaming of
the day Sir Loras might give her another glance. Despite how much we love making
fun of her self-absorption throughout the HBO series, I’m really seeing her as
a very young, lovelorn, easily influenced girl here, and I’ve really taken to
her a lot in the book. That was a very pleasant surprise.
We’re seeing some of Arya’s “dancing”
lessons in this section, bringing back the memories of her learning how to
become a swordsman in the book. I remember the actual teacher being more
prominent in the series (and perhaps he will be again) but in the book he’s
more in the background, as we just see Arya explaining to her exasperated
father what she’s learning. I’m falling in love with her character all over
again.
More importantly, Bran is back, and it’s
interesting seeing his awakening from his point of view. I don’t remember the
scene in the series (which doesn’t mean it wasn’t there) where the three-eyed
crow tells him he can fly if he wants to, but reading this scene certainly
brought a lot more meaning and poignancy to the three-eyed crow, who has become
far more prominent as the series goes on.
Christopher:
No, they didn’t have the “dream” sequence preceding
Bran’s waking in the series, at least not such that it was anything like the
novel. I remember that pretty clearly, because I’d wondered whether that dream
of flying would happen, and how they would do it—in the novel it’s a pretty
elaborate sequence, and always reminds me of the scene in The Fellowship of the Ring when Frodo sits on Amon Hen while
wearing the ring and is granted the ability to see almost all of Middle-Earth.
(As with GoT, that scene was not replicated in the film as described in the
novel). Bran’s vision is similar, and as we know from the details given (such
as Catelyn and Ser Rodrik’s galley crossing the Bite) that the vision is no
mere dream. This is our first inkling of Bran’s new abilities: having lost use
of his legs, he is given new sight, as symbolized by the crow’s third eye, and
its insistence that Bran, too, has one.
I must confess, Bran’s storyline over the
five novels is the one that, mostly, has interested me the least—something best
depicted in the series by the long stretch of time where all we saw of him was
one or two perfunctory scenes per episode as he and his entourage trek north.
That being said, his waking and the dream that prefaces it is probably my
favourite part: the description of him falling and all of Westeros slowly
coming into focus beneath him is beautifully done. And as I said, it has echoes
of Frodo on Amon Hen, one of my favourite scenes in Fellowship:
“At first he could see little. He seemed to be in a world of mist in which there were only shadows: the Ring was upon him. Then here and there the mist gave way and he saw many visions: small and clear as if they were under his eyes on a table, and yet remote. There was no sound, only bright living images. The world seemed to have shrunk and fallen silent … Eastward he looked into wide uncharted lands, namely plains, and forests unexplored. Northward he looked, and the Great River lay like a ribbon beneath him, and the Misty Mountains stood small and hard as broken teeth.”
Both Bran and Frodo are very briefly gifted
with all-encompassing sight, though to dramatically different ends. For Frodo,
it galvanizes him into abandoning the Fellowship and pressing on alone. For
Bran, it is just his first indication of abilities quickening in him that he
has no understanding of, and is thus baffling. But in both cases, the visions
are (for the reader, if not the characters) momentarily unifying, framing the
totality of the stories in a geographical whole. Already in A Game of Thrones the action has become
fragmentary and fractious (and factious), flung all over the seven kingdoms in
a series of individual narratives … but for a brief moment in Bran’s vision
we’re reminded that, to quote Lester Freamon, all the pieces matter.
Meanwhile … Sansa is in her element, or so
she thinks. This is what she was bred
for! All the pageantry and beauty of the Hand’s Tourney, all the handsome
knights and delectable food, all the courtly manners and beautiful dresses, and
being given the rose by Loras Tyrell … for a brief time, Sansa lives inside one
of her beloved songs. There are only a few little suggestions that things might
be otherwise, the first coming when the Mountain kills the Vale knight in the
lists. Sansa is not as horrified as one might expect—she is, as we will find
out, made of sterner stuff than she at first appears—but the death is a
reminder of knight’s principal function, and that jousting is not a sport as
much as it combat training.
Of course, Sansa’s first real education
comes when the Hound walks her back to her room and tells her the story of how
his face was burned. In the series, it was Littlefinger whispering the story to
her in the bleachers as they stared at his scars; but here, we get it from
Sandor’s own mouth, along with the dire threat to kill her if she tells anyone.
It is the first moment of the odd relationship he and Sansa develop. What did
you think of how it happened in the novel?
Nikki: I entirely agree with you on Bran. His story hasn’t interested me
much on the show, and it didn’t interest me much more in the book. The vision
was beautifully written, and as you say, it unveiled things happening at
Winterfell that Bran couldn’t have possibly known (machinations happening in
the very moment after he’d been unconscious for weeks) so it indicates right
away that we’re not seeing a dream, but something much more real.
I’m surprised at how much I can remember of
the first season, right down to scenery and tiny details, and when they were at
the jousting tournament, I kept waiting for Littlefinger to show up, sit next
to Sansa, and tell her the story of the Mountain and the Hound. And then he
walks over, says hello, gives her a shiver, and turns and walks away again. I
thought, “Wait… aren’t we going to get the story?” And instead it’s delivered
by the Hound himself. I think it’s actually more powerful to come from Sandor
than Baelish, to be honest. I can see why they did it — dramatically speaking,
it’s far more effective to know what the Mountain did to the Hound when they’re
both in the jousting tourney, and it allows the audience at home to hate the
Mountain and cheer when he falls. But the relationship between Sansa and the
Hound is a complicated one on the show, and having this beginning to it now
gives me far more insight into the later complications. In season 1 she’s
merely afraid of him. But in season 2 he seems to take care of her, rushing
into her room and offering to whisk her away from the Lannisters and the
horrible betrothal to Joffrey (and her certain death, as he sees it) but she
turns him down. Yet there’s this affection there that seems to have sprung out
of nowhere. (By season 3 he’s with Arya instead.) So I really enjoyed that
scene, the moment where she seems rapt by his story and shows sympathy to him,
telling him that his brother “was no true knight.” He seems rather bemused by
her response, but still growls at her that if she tells anyone what he just
said, he’ll kill her. That explains the constant terror she feels around him.
On the show, we just chalk her terror up to the look of his face and the
seeming menace he presents, but in the book it’s a very real menace.
Speaking of complicated characters, oh how
I love the introduction to Varys in this section. On the show I can never put
my finger on him. Is he good? Is he bad? In one scene he’s entirely
sympathetic, and in the next his little birds have sung to the wrong person and
one of our heroes is in trouble. You’ve said in our back and forth discussions
on the HBO show many times that they couldn’t have made a better casting
decision than bringing on Conleth Hill to play the Spider, and WOW were you
ever right. (Not that I questioned you!) Entire sections of dialogue are taken
directly from the book, and I can’t help but picture Hill every time Varys
enters the scene. Interestingly, I’m not always picturing the actors playing
these characters anymore, since some of the descriptions are different from the
actual characters on screen, but with Varys, he’s exactly the same character.
In the final EDDARD scene of this section,
Varys seems far more on board than he is on the show. I didn’t trust him at all
in the first two seasons of the series, but in this scene I really do believe
he’s trying to help Ned. But then again, that could all be part of his plan. I
look forward to the Varys scenes now, just like I do on the show. But,
interestingly, it took until season 3 before I was really intrigued by the
character on the show; I’m fascinated by him immediately in the book. Was he a
favourite of yours from the get-go?
Christopher:
I wish I could remember what my first impression of
Varys was, because he has become one of my favourite characters. GRRM has a
talent for characterization across a broad spectrum, but he’s particularly good
at the sociopaths (The Mountain, the Bastard of Bolton) and such shrewd, highly
intelligent schemers as Tyrion, Tywin, Littlefinger … and Varys. I think one of
my favourite parts of the series that doesn’t appear in the books is the
occasional verbal sparring between Baelish and Varys—and I wonder whether that
was just something the writers decided on before the actors were cast, or
whether they added the scenes when they realized what brilliant banterers they
had in Aidan Gillen and Conleth Hill. We don’t have any such moments in the
novel, mainly because we don’t have POVs from either of those characters, but
also (I suspect) because the Littlefinger of the novels isn’t quite as ruthless as the one on the show
(perhaps we should call this the “Carcetti Effect”). A crucial scene in this
respect is his secret conference with Ned and Catelyn—his unrequited love for
Lady Stark doesn’t prevent him from betraying Ned (or possibly incites him to
do so, it is hard to say), but it humanizes him in a way that the series never
allows. In season three, Varys says of Littlefinger that he would burn the
realm to the ground if he could be king over the ashes; the Baelish of the
novels is not nearly that monomaniacal, and his lingering love for Catelyn is
an element of that.
In both the novel
and the series, however, Varys and Littlefinger act, at this point in the
story, as much as foils to Ned Stark’s suspicious and yet obtuse sense of
King’s Landing as anything else. Both act as apparent guides, offering him
counsel and advice; in both cases, their counsel and advice seems legitimate at
first glance, though we will understand in hindsight that both were just
testing the waters and getting a sense of this new Hand. The difference? Varys
is, perhaps counter-intuitively, more honest. “I will make another confession,
Lord Eddard,” says Varys. “I was curious to see what you would do. Why not come to me? you ask, and I must
answer, Why, because I did not trust you,
my lord.” The fact that Ned is frankly gobsmacked that anyone would not
trust him at once vindicates Varys’
recently-found trust in him and bodes ill for his future in King’s Landing.
What both the Spider and the Master of Coin try to teach him is one-half of the
X-Files’ dictum: Trust No One. (The
“truth,” such as it is, remains pretty far Out There after five novels).
Nikki: You are so correct
about the Littlefinger of the novels being more sympathetic than the Carcetti
version. Like I said with Viserys, it’s the little details about their
childhoods that make you look at them with a little more sympathy than we do on
the show. There are no flashbacks to childhood in the HBO version, just the
here and now. But hearing about his love for Catelyn, and how he followed her
and her friends around like a little lapdog (and how they bullied him and
laughed about his sadness in his face) really casts a sympathetic light on him.
If a rather unsympathetic one on Catelyn…
We don’t get much
of Daenerys in this section, just one check-in with her, but I really enjoyed
it. Despite the gentleness of Khal Drogo on their wedding night, the scenes in
this section are more in keeping with what we saw on the show, with her in
extreme pain from riding the horse, and then having to be taken roughly by her
husband every night whether she likes it or not (and generally it’s not). Just like on the show, she takes
control and makes him face her when they’re making love, and you can tell how
completely consumed by her he becomes in that moment, making everything we know
will come later fall right into place. The scene where she humiliates Viserys
is well played in the book, reminding me of the same scene on the series. Man,
reading this is really making me want to watch season 1 again! ;)
We didn’t get
much of a chance to talk about Tyrion last week, and I think we’ll probably get
more of a chance to talk about him in next week’s segment, but I’m really
enjoying reading his parts. I meant to mention a line that made me gasp in the
first section because of how much I loved its poetry, and the line still fits
in this section. As Tyrion turns to walk away from Jon Snow after pointing out
the similarities between the two of them (both cast off by their fathers; one
for being a dwarf, the other for being a bastard), GRRM writes, “And with that
he turned and sauntered back into the feast, whistling a tune. When he opened
the door, the light from within threw his shadow clear across the yard, and for
just a moment Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king.”
What a beautiful,
beautiful line.
In this section
he leaves behind Jon Snow and returns home to that fateful moment in the
tavern, where Catelyn calls on her bannermen to nab him. It’s played almost exactly the same way as it was on the
show, and yet GRRM handled the scene so deftly I still found myself worried and
nervous about what was about to happen.
I know back when
the show began, you expressed as much delight as the other fans in the choice
of Peter Dinklage as Tyrion. In the book, he’s ugly and twisted and far more
deformed than he is on TV, and yet I can imagine absolutely no one else. It’s
Dinklage on every page where Tyrion appears. When you read it now, are you also
picturing Dinklage or do you picture the original Tyrion in your head? How
about the other characters?
Christopher: There’s a few
discrepancies, to be certain. Dinklage is amazing as Tyrion, but Dinklage is
also an exceptionally handsome man. The way Tyrion is described in the novels
makes him out as a grotesque, and not just because of his height. The series
makes it work, if for no other reason than we expect television to give us more
attractive people on the screen than we encounter in normal life, but I do
think we lose something of Tyrion’s characterization in the novels by having
him portrayed as someone genuinely attractive.
In our episode
recaps, I have frequently voiced my ambivalence about Lena Headey as Cersei,
and part of that proceeds from her description in the novels. Headey’s
performance has been really good—I don’t want to take anything away from her as
an actress—but she emphasizes the icy dimension of Cersei and little of the
sensuality we see in the novels. It occurred to me recently that Polly Walker,
who played Atia of the Julii in Rome
would have been ideal in this role: similarly aloof and cold when necessary,
but always exuding a syrupy aura of sex. (By the same token, James Purefoy, who
played Antony, would have made for a good Jaime … though you’d have had to
bleach his entire body).
Aside from those
quibbles, the casting on this show has been pretty much spot-on. It’s easy to
gloss over those little discrepancies, like Joffrey’s shoulder-length curls. The
Darcy Effect only really takes hold, for me, with the Stark children,
especially Jon, Robb, and Arya. How about you?
Nikki: As much as I love
Purefoy, I think the casting of Jaime Lannister is pretty much spot-on. Even
when GRRM describes him the first time, it’s like he’s describing the actor
playing him, not just the character in the book. And I haven’t seen enough of
Cersei to comment on Lena Headey; she’s cold, that’s for sure, but I agree her
character feels a little thin compared to the far more sensuous Cersei in the
book. But I’m looking forward to more of her.
The last
character is Jon Snow. We get introduced to Samwell Tarly, one of my favourite
characters on the show, and while the Sam of the book seems to be even fatter,
I think John Bradley plays him wonderfully on the show. Much like it plays out
on the show, Jon comes to Sam’s rescue against the bullies on the Wall, and
slowly earns the respect (or fear) of those around him by using his cunning. In
the books as well as on the show, Jon certainly comes off as the “Stark” who is
the smartest of the bunch, save for Arya, perhaps.
And that’s it for
week 2!
Next week: Part Three: 324-488 mass market; 272-408
trade paperback (starting with TYRION "As he stood in the predawn
chill...")
3 comments:
I decided to start reading these books, and today I come here and find that you're discussing te same chapters I'm currently reading =)
(I also finished watching the show very recently)
I love reading your posts...I must confess I'm reading too far ahead because I just can't stop! :)
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