Hello and welcome to this week's penultimate episode of Game of Thrones. I am, as always, joined by my fellow man of the Night's Watch as we guard the Wall of the internet against... um... yeah, okay, that metaphor was going nowhere... anyway, Christopher Lockett is his name! This week's post is a little shorter because we only had to focus on one story (I can already hear the collective cheer) but we still have a lot to say! Shock.
Nikki: You know,
I never thought I’d see anything more impressive than Legolas sliding down the
side of a tower while shooting arrows at the enemies at Helm’s Deep, but seeing
the Night’s Watch guys suddenly pull a gigantic scythe that had been long
hidden in the side of the Wall and pummel the hell out of the wildlings scaling
the side of it? Holy hell. Turns out the reason we haven’t seen much of the
dragons this season (I mean, seriously, where DOES Daenerys keep those beasts?
Do they just fly around randomly through Meereen scaring the hell out of the
local children?) is because they poured 92% of their CGI budget into this one
episode. And what an incredible sequence it was.
I don’t recall another episode of Game of Thrones that focused entirely on one area, one battle; they
always touch on other things and then come back to the battle at the end of the
episode. I could be wrong, but I think this is the first time we get to focus
on one story and one story only, Chris, and it was a nail-biter.
With the death of Oberyn looming over us from last week, I
kept wondering who was going to die in this one. Samwell Tarly? Jon Snow?
Ygritte? Gilly? Someone had to die,
after all. After we discussed last week how GRRM has upended our expectations
over and over again, does his flipping of convention actually become the new
expectation? Do we now go into every scene thinking, “Um... yeah. Jon Snow
ain’t walking away from this one...” and then GRRM manages to flip THAT
expectation? I just don’t know how to handle any of it anymore, but in creating
this “will he or won’t he” atmosphere around his writing, GRRM has effectively
managed to make his episodes seem very realistic. Just as in real life, you
never know who’s going to return from battle and who won’t. He will take out
the main character just as easily as the guy playing “Sentry #13.”
Aside from the awesome effects in this episode (the giant had a bow that shot spears like they were arrows WHAT THE HELL) I think my favourite scene may have been the one between Maester Aemon and Sam. This is when Sam still thinks Gilly is dead from the attack on Mole’s Town, and Aemon tells him how difficult it is to see straight when you are in love. “Love is the death of duty,” he tells him, and he’s pointing specifically to Jon Snow falling in love with Ygritte, or Sam falling in love with Gilly. He tells Sam that he was in love with, and in this gorgeous moment he looks off in the distance and says that he can still see her in front of him, “she’s more real than you are.” Aemon is legally blind, from what I can tell (I believe he can still see shadows and such) and because he can no longer see the world around him in the present, he instead looks upon the beauty of his past. And in the midst of this moment of calm before the storm, he says to Sam, “Nothing makes the past a sweeter place to visit than the prospect of imminent death.”
This one scene then has a huge impact upon our expectations
of the rest of the episode. Will Jon see Ygritte and fail to do his duty? Will
Sam shirk his duty for Gilly? And whose death will be imminent?
And yet, not surprisingly, love is not the death of duty for Sam. He loves Gilly and hides her and the
baby away in a locked room, but refuses to stay with her. He has made a vow,
and he intends to stick by it, even as a man lay dying in his lap with blood
gushing from his mouth. He knows he also has a duty to Gilly, but his vow as a
man of the Night’s Watch comes first, and he never runs off to hide, unlike Janos
Slynt, who goes into shock and rushes into the room. (And to be honest, I felt
like if he’d jumped into the fray the Night’s Watch might have accidentally
mistaken his bald pate for a Thenn, so... he was probably better off cowering
in that room.)
And similarly, we saw Jon Snow abandon Ygritte despite his
feelings for her, because he had to get back to the Night’s Watch and tell them
what he’d seen. Love wasn’t the death of duty for him, either, although we do
see in this episode that when he should have laid waste to the wildling girl,
he hesitates.
The flip side of Aemon’s speech is Tormund talking about sex
rather brutally, and Ygritte staying focused on her one and only task at hand:
killing Jon Snow. As Tormund talks about “Sheila” and Sam asks Jon, “So...
what’s it like?” in a very Monty Pythonesque way (nudge nudge wink wink) we
realize that when it’s time to go into battle, the mind turns to that from
which it derives pleasure: namely sex and love. Do those things make us weaker
in the face of battle, or stronger?
What did you think of this episode, Chris? Did it play out
in a similar fashion in the book?
Christopher: Well,
to start with, you’re forgetting season two’s spectacular episode “Blackwater,”
which focused exclusively on Stannis’ attack on King’s Landing and Tyrion’s
brilliant defense of the city. So we do have precedent for Game of Thrones ignoring all storylines but one in order to depict
a massive battle. And I think you’re right about the dearth of dragons this
season: this episode outdid “Blackwater” by a mile, and treated us to the kind
of eye-poppingly sophisticated CGI one rarely sees on television, but that
doesn’t come cheaply.
As for its consonance with the book, it changes a few key
details. For one, Toramund’s assault on Castle Black is not coordinated with
the assault on the Wall. In the books, there is no stockade on the south side
of the Wall, and so Jon Snow and the Watch defend themselves from the tops of
scattered towers, and from a makeshift barricade at the base of switchback
stairs built into the Wall (in the novels, the “elevator” is not the only means
of getting to the top). Ygritte dies in the fight, but we don’t see it happen.
Jon finds her afterward just as she dies—with just enough time to remember the
cave and say one last “you know nothing, Jon Snow”—and wonders whether it was
his arrow that killed her.
Seriously, Jon Snow. You know NOTHING. (Photo from CrooksandLiars) |
Also, his friends Pyp and Grenn don’t die in the book: that
one took me by surprise, and saddened me somewhat. Neither of them plays a
large part in the series, and if you haven’t read the books you could be
forgiven for not noticing them as distinct from any of the other watchmen. But
as with so much of the casting on this show, the actors playing them were
perfect for the parts, and I will miss them. (And it raises a question we’ve
asked before about whether choices in the series are spoilers for the unwritten
books—does this mean that Grenn and Pyp play no significant roles in the end?
Or perhaps GRRM planned for them to, but will now incorporate their deaths into
his writing? I’m pretty certain we’re in unprecedented territory here. It’s
pretty fascinating, really).
The other significant difference is that in the novels the
battle takes place over several days, with Jon Snow proving his mettle as a
battle commander. When there is a lull in the fighting and Mance Rayder settles
in for a protracted siege, that is when Janos Slynt arrives from King’s Landing
with Alliser Thorne, who had been at Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, one of the Night’s
Watch’s other fortresses, and takes arrogant and preemptory command. On
Thorne’s urging, he has Jon Snow thrown in chains for having betrayed his oaths
with the wildlings; and it is Slynt (again, on Thorne’s urging) who sends Jon
to parley with Mance Rayder with the suicidal mission of killing him—in order,
he smugly says, to prove Jon’s loyalty.
So the series has compressed the action somewhat, which is
not a bad thing, and in having Janos Slynt arriving at the Wall MUCH earlier,
they turn him into a quivering, cowardly lump. Ser Alliser, by contrast, is
made somewhat more sympathetic: I quite like what they did with him in this
episode, having him admit to Jon Snow his error in not heeding his advice to
block the tunnel, and then delivering a short speech on the nature of
leadership that, in the absence of Maester Aemon’s speech, would have been the
best bit of writing in the episode:
“Do you know what leadership means, Lord Snow? It means that
the person in charge gets second-guessed by every clever little twat with a
mouth. But if he starts second-guessing himself, that’s the end—for himself,
for the clever little twats, for everyone. This is not the end. Not for us. Not
if you lot do your duty for however long it takes to beat them back. And then
you get to go on hating me, and I get to go on wishing your wildling whore had
finished the job.”
I loved this—there’s no love lost between Thorne and Jon
Snow, and if they survive the battle there will be no sudden bonds of affection
and friendship between them. But Thorne, unlike his ally Janos Slynt, is a true
soldier, and will put aside his petty hatreds in the name of duty. It is
actually the flip side of the coin of Maester Aemon’s speech to Sam: love is
the death of duty, but then so are other passions. Say what you will about
Alliser Thorne, but he understands that hatred will sabotage his ability to do
his duty as much as Sam’s love of Gilly, or Jon’s of Ygritte.
And then he goes on to show that he’s a guy you totally want
having your back in a fight.
Like “Blackwater,” this was an episode that balanced some
fine writing against some pretty spectacular action sequences. There were a
number of fist-pumping moments for me, most notably when the burning oil lights
the giants up like a torch, and when Jon Snow mashes the Thenn’s head in with a
hammer. What got you cheering in this episode, Nikki?
Did anyone else see this guy and think, "Wow, Tilda Swinton is on Game of Thrones?!" |
Nikki: As I was
typing the words “I don’t recall another episode of Game of Thrones that focused entirely on one area...” I thought to
myself, “Did Blackwater just focus on that battle?” If I’d looked up our
review of it that week, I would have seen that yes, indeed, it did. My
mistake.
The enormous scythe probably got the biggest gasp from me,
as did that spear the giant shot (that sent a man sailing through the air, off
the side of the Wall, down several hundred feet, and impaled onto the ground on
the other side... WOW). The two moments you mention were certainly spectacular
and brilliantly handled on the show. I loved the archers leaning out and
standing horizontally against the Wall, appearing to defy gravity as they shot
their arrows straight down at the wildlings scaling the side of it (and when
the oil exploded and broke the one man’s rope I will admit a scream emitted
from my mouth). The sheer numbers of the wildlings as they appeared in front of
the Wall, complete with their “fairy-tale” allies, made me think this was going
to be a very quick battle, and I was
thrilled that the Night’s Watch managed to stand their ground, even if it’s for
one night only, as Jon Snow proclaims.
I agree entirely with your assessment of Ser Alliser. For
everything I was saying a few weeks back on what a prick he is and what a
dumbass he is for not listening to Jon Snow when Jon told him to seal the
tunnels, he not only admits to his mistakes here, but fights like a true
warrior when he hits the ground.
Probably the biggest fist-pumping scene for both my husband
and me is when Sam unleashed Ghost. YES. The direwolves are always exciting to
watch and have been since back in season 1, and the doggie-cam style of showing
him working his way through the action and then choosing one guy to take down
was brilliant.
I also wanted to mention that I thought the music was
phenomenal in this episode: they reused that long scary blast music that first
played as the Thenn came marching through the valley toward the wildlings, and
it was overlaid with bits of the Game of
Thrones theme music, the wildling music, and the music often used for the Night’s Watch. Just utterly
brilliant music here.
I will admit there were times when we were a tad confused by
the layout of everything (so... Mole’s Town must be north of the Wall because
the wildlings were already there and massacred it, which means Castle Black is
also north of the Wall? So from the south all you can see is the Wall itself,
but the Castle is located on the northern side, is that correct?) but it didn’t
stop the action one bit.
So, with the Night’s Watch’s numbers depleted but Castle
Black still standing, Tormund in captivity, Ygritte and the Thenn leader dead,
Slynt in severe shock, Ser Alliser wounded but still alive, Gilly safe in
Castle Black for now, Sam having had his first kiss (awwww), and the giants
dead after the men of the Night’s Watch held the gate, as Jon Snow had asked
them to do... Jon is going to head off into the wilds north of the Wall and
find Mance Rayder and end all of this, he says. Earlier in the episode, Gilly
made Sam promise to come back, and he made that promise... and kept it. Now Sam
watches Jon go — sans sword — and says to him, “Jon? Come back.” Part of
me is terrified Jon won’t. But I’m assuming with so much focus on the Wall and
what’s north of it in this episode, this might be the last we see of Jon Snow
until season 5, and next week we’ll conclude the rest of the action in
Westeros.
Of course, this final back-and-forth between Sam and Jon had
me asking one very big question: where the hell was Mance Rayder? I remember when Ciaran Hinds was introduced as
Mance last season and you were giddy, Chris (not least because he’s Julius
Caesar to us) and then... nothing. He’s never there, he’s utterly absent from
the battle, and he’s just disappeared from the action all this season. I
haven’t read this book, so perhaps there some explanation there I’m missing,
but it just felt like he should have been there in some capacity. If he was the
one who brought them all together, after all, why isn’t he there fighting with
them?
Any final thoughts, Chris?
Christopher: Mance
is there, just not leading from the front. I assume that was, in part, just an
issue of scheduling and pay … there wouldn’t have been much Mance this season
anyway, so why pay an actor for a few-minute cameo in the penultimate episode?
I say that, of course, knowing that we might see him in the finale, but I’m
going to guess that you’re correct—we won’t see the Wall again until next
season, as there is simply too much to tie up in the rest of our storylines.
I think you’re confused about the geography because you’ve
momentarily forgotten that Tormund, Ygritte, et al are in fact south of the Wall. They climbed over the Wall
last season with Jon Snow (as he reminds us in this episode) and have ranged
pretty far south in the raiding as they wait for Mance’s signal. Castle Black
is south of the Wall; Tormund’s group comes up on them from the south.
I too was thrilled by Sam releasing Ghost. We haven’t seen
much of him this season, but he’s had two really great moments—taking out Rast
at Craster’s Keep, and then again in this episode. Having a direwolf on your
side goes a long way to evening the odds.
One thing I quite liked about this episode is Sam’s
evolution as a character. John Bradley has never played him precisely like the
Samwell Tarly of the novels—he’s always been more gregarious, less timid, and
far less cowardly. Though I like the Sam of the novels, his incessant cringing
and whining makes him difficult to take at times … and while on one hand it’s a
welcome change from uniformly dour and courageous male heroes, one does start
to lose patience with him. But Bradley’s Sam has evolved—starting out cringy
and whiny, but slowly coming into his own as he endures hardships and dangers
that would reduce most of us to jelly. They’re precisely the same hardships and
dangers he endures in the novels, but Sam as written never quite toughens up.
His speech to Pyp as they wait at the gates for the wildlings to attack is
another lovely moment of writing, imbued with Sam’s self-awareness of how he’s
changed. In the moment he killed the White Walker, he was “nothing”—and that is
when fear disappears. So why was he afraid now? “I’m not nothing anymore,” he
replies, and those words speak both to Sam coming into his own as a character,
but also his realization that he loves Gilly. In other words, he has something
now to live for.
In many ways, this was a very deftly written episode for one
that was basically a massive battle. The themes of love, leadership, and duty
run through it, and far from being three separate concepts they are shown to be
inextricably entwined. Jon Snow’s fumbling attempt to explain how sex and love
feels at the start is inadvertently quite eloquent: “It’s this whole other
person … you’re wrapped up in them, they’re wrapped up in you … for a little
while you’re more than just you … Oh, I don’t know, I’m not a bleeding poet!”
Oh, Jon—you were almost there. You almost had it. Jon’s description is the
opposite of Sam’s when he tells Pyp about becoming nobody. It makes me think of
the final line of Philip Larkin’s poem “An Arundel Tomb,” in which the
otherwise cynical and bleak poet concludes that “What will survive of us is
love.” Maester Aemon might characterize love as the death of duty, but he
acknowledges its power … and we see that on Jon Snow’s face when he’s
confronted by Ygritte pointing an arrow at his chest. The smile the crosses his
face is enigmatic—at once chagrined but, as you observe Nikki, also delighted.
It’s as if he’s thinking “Of course
you’re the one who’s going to kill me,” but at the same time acknowledging that
if he’s going to die, he’s happy she’s the one to do it.
Would she have shot him if Olly hadn’t beaten her to it? I
had halfway expected her to put an arrow into Alabaster Seal while Jon was
fighting him, at once saving his life but also following through on her earlier
threat. We’re never given the answer of whether she’d actually have killed Jon
this time … but then, perhaps, some questions should not be answered.
Well, that’s it for this week, folks! Thanks for reading,
and always remember to uncage your direwolf before
the battle. Tune in next week as Nikki and I put our fourth season of Game of Thrones to be. And I promise you
this much: once again, the internet’s gonna get broke.
24 comments:
I'm actually rather worried they are just going to focus on Jon Snow and the Wall in the finale and ignore the other storylines. I will be rather annoyed if Book 3 ends up in Season 5 as well.
I was on the fence about this episode just focusing on one story arc. But after reading your recap, I can appreciate all the things you pointed out...the speeches, the themes, character development, etc. But it does make me fear that they will do what they always do at the end of the seasons...cram way too much into the last episode so we only get snippets. It always feels rushed when they do that.
As for the concerns about what will/will not be in the last episode...did you guys not see the previews? Mance was definitely in it. Looks like he captures John. They flashed on almost every other character storyline too. I will rewatch it and try to catch more from the previews but again, I think they're going to cram too much in. And where the hell did 10 weeks (11 actually) go?? Why can't they do more than 10? Money? C'mon...it's the most popular HBO show ever. Argh!
Oh and Nikki, that picture of Jon Snow in the Jeopardy game literally made me laugh out loud!!!
From what I recall from the books, there was a group of wildlings on the south side of the wall that Jon climbed over the wall with that attacked from the south.
I think Ygritte was the one whose love got in the way of her duty. Her hesitation when she saw Jon left him living -- for a second time. In an earlier episode Tormund commented on how Jon was not dead when Ygritte hit him with three arrows and he'd seen her kill much tougher targets with one shot.
I think we will see quite a bit of book three in Season 5. I think it was at the beginning of book 3 that GRRM talks about timeline and how chapters may take place before during or after others because some chapters cover a day and some a month or more. I think the series is trying to pull things together more chronologically.
Has anyone else discovered the Tower of the Hand website? It has tons of info categorized by either the books or the series -- recaps of the episodes and/or the chapters of the books, Character descriptions, maps, family trees and so much more. And for certain features you can also block spoilers by choosing which books you have read or seasons you have watched.
Only one mutant elephant? Really? How did this come to pass? And what happens when this elephant dies? Haha, remember the giant's sad/weird face when he died?
Why, yes, I was drinking wine during this episode, why do you ask?
I somehow managed to avoid being spoiled about Ygritte's death - it's the first big thing this season that took me completely off-guard. Can't wait until this Sunday!
Joanie!!! It's so good to have you back. :) And yes, I was thinking the same thing about the giant... he watches Other Giant die and he's singing sad Broadway tunes about being the last giant in the world. Or breaking down gates, one or the other.
Great recap, as always, you two! A very enjoyable episode, if it ultimately would suffer as a uni-location chapter in comparison to "Blackwater", which benefited from a fuller cast of compelling characters (Tyrion, Joffrey, The Hound, Davos Seaworth, Cersei, etc.) — AND the script by George R.R. himself.
Great CGI, and a fairly compelling representation of the source material in the novel. Anything else I would have to comment on with regard to this week's recap PALES in comparison to my happiness for YOU, Nik, in knowing the joy that is yours to come when you read this brilliant third book in the series — the best so far (IMO), and one of the better epic novels it's my pleasure to read, period. I was reminded of this during my recent re-read.
Can't wait for next week!
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I still have my notes for last week's ep sitting here. Dang.
@Nikki: // the giant had a bow that shot spears like they were arrows WHAT THE HELL //
Ha! Yeah.
@Nikki: // I think my favourite scene may have been the one between Maester Aemon and Sam. //
Did we know that Maester Aemon was Aemon Targaryen? I was under the impression that there were no other Targaryens left.
@Nikki: // He knows he also has a duty to Gilly, but his vow as a man of the Night’s Watch comes first //
I loved him questioning whether the Night's Watch oath actually forbade sex, as it only mentioned taking a wife and fathering children. He and Tyrion should really end up together somewhere they can have philosophical conversations — aside from the afterlife, I mean — if there's any justice in this series, which I think we can see there often isn't.
@Christopher: // the kind of eye-poppingly sophisticated CGI //
The Mountain's favorite. Oberyn's not so much.
@Christopher: // I’m pretty certain we’re in unprecedented territory here. It’s pretty fascinating, really //
So it is. Didn't J.K. Rowling see that (ugh) Kreacher the house elf had been written out of an early draft of the Order of the Phoenix screenplay and insist he be written back in because he became important in a later book/film?
Blam: Yes, Aemon did reveal himself to be a Targaryen at the end of S1, when Jon Snow found out that Ned had been executed and wanted to go back. It's at that moment Aemon reveals who he was, and that he was the uncle of the Mad King. When Aerys was killed during Baratheon's battle, Aemon said he had to stay on the Wall because his duty was to the brotherhood, and no longer to his family, and that's how he talks Jon into staying.
That said, it's understandable if you didn't remember that bit; when he used the name "Targaryen" in this episode my husband whipped his head in my direction and said, "Did we know that?!" So you certainly weren't alone. :)
You might say Oberyn found the CGI to be mind-blowing.
or
You might say Oberyn couldn't believe his eyes (were being pushed into his brain).
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or
You might say Oberyn found the CGI mind-boggling.
Hi, Marebabe!
Holy crap, this is like some kinda awesome reunion. Even Evil Blam is here! Howdy y'all!
Loved this episode. I've been slack in keeping up with the episodes so I've watched the latest four this week. Loved the moment with Ser Alliser (such a bastard, but I can't help but think of him as Taffy from Murphy's Law) and Jon before the shit hits the fan. Loved Sam as well. He's one of my favourite characters, and his banter with Pypar (am I mental, or do they call him Mouse? I seem to remember that, for some reason) was gold. And I was happy for Little Elevator Dude when he manned up and skewered some wilding raiderness, but sad for Jon. Even though I've always hated Ygritte. Hey, you can't like every character, can you?
BTW, good call on the the third book being the best one so far, Humane. I always knew you had good taste! :)
Batty: Ha, I was thinking the same thing! I almost posted on FB telling people, "Hey, remember the gang from our old Lost discussions? They're over here talking about Game of Thrones, come on over!" (Meanwhile, the non Losties are reading this going who are these people and what the heck are they talking about?!)
No comment. Just wanted to get in on the "reunion".
What?! Where?!?! Anxiously awaiting that finale re-cap. Can't wait to read what everyone thinks!
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