Well that was the best episode of The Walking Dead I've ever seen!! Oh wait... wrong show. Interestingly, on The Walking Dead I've always argued that if they just went north, the zombies would simply freeze and they'd be safe. I bet Jon Snow would probably tell me, "You know nothing, Nikki Stafford." As always, I'm joined by Christopher Lockett to discuss this week's spectacular episode.
Nikki:
Wow. The last 15 minutes of this episode were so
intense that I’m writing this the next day, and my stomach feels like I did 100
crunches.
So, as we always do, let’s start somewhere
else and lead up to that moment.
I’ll start at the beginning, with Tyrion
and Daenerys. Last week I had high hopes for this moment, and it was as
wonderful as I thought it was. Tyrion and Ser Jorah appear before Dany and her
guards, and she asks Tyrion why she should believe that he is who he says he
is. Using that silver tongue of his, he talks his way through everything, from
her questioning why, if he’s from the House that killed her family, she should
allow him to live — “I am the greatest Lannister killer of all time,” he
replies — or where he finally silences her when he begins telling the story of
Daenerys the way he has always heard
it. He recounts the story of a baby that was in peril its entire life, who grew
up into a young woman who was married off to the Dothraki and he thought that
would be the last he’d hear of her, until she rose up and suddenly had armies
and respect and people following her. “I thought you were worth meeting at the very least,” he says with
his usual wit.
He explains to her that she doesn’t
understand the Houses the way he does, and that he could become her advisor.
Daenerys is quiet, calm, and listens to him closely throughout this scene, and
she’s as smart in her silence as Tyrion is in his loquaciousness. Remember: her
longtime advisor betrayed her and was sent away, and the advisor who took over
from him has just been slaughtered. She’s been making her own decisions for the
past couple of weeks, and trying her best to do the right thing, but her
missteps have always happened when she didn’t listen to counsel as closely as
she could. Tyrion has always been so good at captivating a listening audience
that he naturally commands this scene, and she listens to him.
And... she gives him his first task. He has
to advise her on what to do with Ser Jorah, and his advice is spot-on: you can’t
murder a man who is devoted to you, because that will deter the devotion of
others. And yet, he betrayed her. And yet, he changed his mind about her and
would give his life for her now. And yet, he had opportunities to confess his
crime to her and he chose not to, so even when he was most devoted to her, he
was withholding very important information. Therefore, let him live, but he
cannot be at her side. Daenerys looks astonished, and then impressed, and
without a moment’s hesitation tells her guards to get Jorah out of the city. As
we later see, Jorah will not go quietly into that good night, because with the
death sentence growing ever more rapidly on his arm, he feels he’s got nothing
to lose.
The next time we see Tyrion and Dany,
they’re enjoying some wine (I imagine Tyrion must have been in some serious
withdrawal, since he hasn’t had any wine since Jorah kidnapped him) and having
a discussion. He begins to explain the Houses and their various loyalties to
her, and I loved this scene because it felt like he was summing up The Show So
Far. He sets the record straight on the Spider, explaining to Dany that it’s
because of Varys that she probably wasn’t killed in her crib a hundred times.
He’s still being a tad careful around her, asking if she’s going to lop off his
head, and after a few jokes of how close he’s come to losing it before, she
finally tells him that he will be her advisor, and no one’s going to be losing
their heads today. Amusingly, she says, “You can advise me” then takes the wine
goblet from his hand “while you can still speak in complete sentences.” Ha!
Perhaps Dany will be the one to help wean Tyrion from his greatest weakness
(after women, of course).
But after Tyrion begins his new vocation by
suggesting that perhaps the Iron Throne is overrated, and Dany might be better
here, in Meereen, where she’s running the place, where she’s loved and
respected and finally has things under control, she waves him off, and tells
him that Meereen isn’t her home — King’s Landing is (which is so interesting to
us viewers, since we’ve never seen
her in that place, and yet she’s right). He explains the tumultuous conditions
over in Westeros, with the Houses all at war and stabbing each other in the
back, so intent on grabbing the throne for themselves that no one will actually
help her. She simply retorts that the Houses are spokes on a wheel, and Tyrion
sits back like he’s looking at a naive little girl, and says stopping the wheel
is nothing but a beautiful dream and she’s not the first person to have it.
Daenerys turns to him with confidence and says, “I’m not going to stop the
wheel; I’m going to break the wheel.”
Now it’s Tyrion’s turn to look impressed.
These opening scenes set up a recurring
motif in this episode, which is the power of language. Tyrion saves his own
life — and that of Jorah’s — through his words. In fact, he’s made it this far
on words alone (and is the only Lannister not dead or imprisoned at the
moment). If only Cersei would confess — she doesn’t have to mean it, she just
has the say the words — they say they’d let her out of her prison. Ramsay
undercuts Roose’s plans to have a giant army by suggesting that strategy would
work more than numbers. The discussion between Sam and Ollie — and the
words Sam uses without realizing the effect they have on the boy — could spell
doom in the future. And the speeches that Tormund and Jon Snow give at the end
of the episode are the ones that ring out throughout the battle that follows.
If it’s intelligence and words over sheer
military might that will win the Iron Throne, Daenerys and Tyrion have the best
chance of all of them at this point.
One of the most fascinating scenes follows
the opening one, where Arya reinvents herself using only speech and a new
backstory, as Jaqen gives her an initial mission. What did you think of the
House of Black and White storyline this week, Chris?
Christopher:
Considering how much the show is now diverting from
the source material, it is an odd comfort to have one storyline at least hew
closely to the novels. Arya’s story continues to fall out much as GRRM wrote
it, with a handful of changes for the sake of economy. What I liked about her
story in this episode is that, in an episode largely—as you observe—about
talking, Arya’s bit is very much about seeing,
both in terms of Arya seeing and at the same time not being seen. As Lana the
oyster-girl, she is all but invisible, and from this position is able to
observe very astutely and acutely.
One thing I should point out is that in A Feast for Crows, her apprenticeship as
oyster-girl is more protracted and more literally an apprenticeship, as she is
instructed to work for and live with a family who harvest and sell shellfish
(and who take her in from the Faceless Men without question). The slight change
the show makes in not drawing this out is an obvious one, but it is worth
pointing out the novel’s treatment because it helps highlight the way in which
our understanding of the faceless men has evolved.
The Faceless Men are a remarkable invention
by GRRM, a society of assassins that ultimately comes to eschew all the clichés
that usually attach to such characters. In A
Game of Thrones, we first hear of them when Robert Baratheon demands that
the newly pregnant Daenerys be killed, and the Faceless Men are floated as a
possible means to this end—only to be ruled out by Littlefinger on the grounds
that their services are monumentally expensive. Littlefinger later placates a
furious Ned Stark, saying that in offering a general reward for her death (as
he had suggested), it was unlikely that anyone would succeed in killing
her—whereas, had they hired the Faceless Men, she’d be as good as dead.
Then we meet Jaqen H’ghar in season two and
in A Clash of Kings, who seems to
embody some of the aforementioned assassin clichés: suave, mysterious,
preternaturally capable of dealing death. But this season he bears more
resemblance to Yoda than anyone else, and the further we go into the House of
Black and white (literally and figuratively), the more we come to understand the
Faceless Men as a religious order rather than a mysterious order of assassins,
who do not exist in isolation from society but in continuity with it. How they
choose their victims remains a little mysterious, as does the precise method of
remuneration. Littlefinger laments how expensive they are, but a man begins to
wonder if that is perhaps the going rate for the rich and powerful, for whom
assassination isn’t about giving the gift of death but a calculated
move—whereas vengeance against a cynical insurance adjuster by an impoverished
widow, who certainly could not afford the Littlefinger rate, would cost
something more commensurate with the man’s crime and the widow’s means.
This is of course highly speculative, but
it makes sense with regards to everything we have seen thus far. Arya’s
apprenticeship to Jaqen has been about the dissolution of ego and concomitant
ability to dissolve oneself into the world at large, to swim in its currents
without being noticed, and above all to be able to see people for what they are.
In this respect, Arya’s story stands in
stark (ha!) contrast to Cersei’s, who currently suffers the consequences of her
blindness. All her life she has had two weapons: her beauty and her name, and
they have never failed her before. As a result, she has been able to delude
herself into believing herself a shrewd player in the game of thrones, whereas
in reality she has been little more than a bungler. She now finds herself in a
position where all she can do is rail and threaten, for she has put power in
the hands of the one body that trumps the crown, and she did so in the mistaken
belief that the High Sparrow understood the process as a transaction, as a quid
pro quo. “I
made him,” she tells Qyburn when he suggests that confession is one way out of
her quandary. “I rose him up from nothing. I will not kneel before some
barefooted commoner and beg his forgiveness.” This assertion reveals more about
Cersei than her stubborn pride: it betrays the fact that she still just doesn’t
get it, that she has arrived at a place and time where the Lannister name is
not a get out of jail free card, does not entitle her to others’ fear and
respect, and does not grant her authority.
There’s
a nice little resonance here with Tyrion’s speech to Daenerys in which he
enumerates why the various great houses will oppose her. Tyrion, though far
smarter and shrewder than his sister, is nevertheless still captive to the same
fallacy as Cersei, one that Daenerys is determined to upend. Daenerys
understands one of the central truths of The
Wire—“the game is rigged.” But she does not mean to play by the usual
rules.
It
will be interesting to see how Littlefinger fares.
Meanwhile,
in the North, Sansa hears the first good news she’s had in a very, very long
time. What did you think of the Winterfell story in this episode, Nikki?
Nikki: Oh, I’ve been
waiting so long for Sansa to hear anything
good about her family, and this moment was wonderful. It’s a quiet one, hidden
in the middle of the episode and certainly overshadowed by the high drama
happening in the King’s Landing prisons (for which I must give major kudos to
Lena Headey, who is brilliant as Cersei this week) and the beyond spectacular
battle scene at the end. As you called it last week (and I bungled as badly as Cersei
has screwed up with the Sparrows), Reek did indeed turn to his master rather
than try to help Sansa. But in this episode he pleads with her that in not
trying to carry out her plan, he was
helping her. She thinks because she’s somehow escaped the clutches of Joffrey
she’s seen the worst Westeros has to offer. Turns out a bastard Bolton is far
more dangerous than an inbred Lannister. (The Westerosians need to make bumper
stickers with that motto just to spread the word.)
Reek
tries to explain his motives to Sansa, but she won’t have any of it. He’s
utterly broken; sadly, he’s not rising up to fight Ramsay the way I thought he
might. I’m still not ruling it out, but it’s going to take something major to
switch the Theon in him back on. In this episode he speaks of Theon in the
third person, and says he’s absolutely not him any longer (which renders him
answering to Theon two episodes ago a bit of a continuity error, in my eyes).
He tells Sansa, “Theon Greygoy tried to escape.” He explains that “the master”
knew, and “he cut away piece after piece until there was no Theon left.” Sansa
simply looks at him and says, “Good.” She says if Ramsay hadn’t done those
things to him, she would have done all of them and worse, or at least wished
she had. She’s getting no argument from Reek, who tells her that he deserved
everything he got.
But
then she demands to know why, and how, could he have done what he did with her
little brothers. He grew up with Rickon and Bran, how could he do those
terrible things to them? And for a split second, Theon returns, and he says it
wasn’t— and then stops short. Sansa catches him, though, and won’t let him walk
away. She pushes and pushes until he finally admits he never killed her
brothers, he couldn’t find them. He killed two innocent farmboys. The look on
Sansa’s face was worth the price of admission. Just imagine this news for her. She watched her father be beheaded by
the man to whom she was betrothed. She heard that her mother, brother,
sister-in-law, and their unborn child were slaughtered by the Boltons. Arya has
gone missing and is presumed dead. And then she hears that her two little
brothers have been burned alive by a man who was raised like one of her brothers.
The only relation she believes she has left is Jon Snow, and he’s been banished
to the Wall and isn’t a Stark. She’s gone from having a family of eight,
including Theon the ward, to it just being her. Even the Theon she knew is
gone. And now it’s as if two of the dead have come back to life. She doesn’t
know where they are, but they’re out there somewhere, and she might see them
again one day. It’s a wonderful, wonderful moment, filmed with the two faces in
profile, silhouetted against a grated window, as Sansa clutches the sides of
Reek’s face, trying to catch her breath. I absolutely loved the art direction
of this moment.
This
scene moves to the Boltons planning their strategy against Stannis Baratheon’s
army. Roose says he’s prepared for the siege and Stannis’s men are outnumbered.
They simply hold out, wait for Stannis’s men to starve or mutiny, et voila,
they win. But Ramsay’s got another idea up his sleeve. Or, as he says in an
obvious shout-out to the title of the fourth book, he believes they need to
take an offensive strategy and force Stannis’s army to become a Feast for the
Crows. Roose (whose profile made me realize for the first time that his nose
has clearly been broken at some point, for it has absolutely no curve to it
whatsoever) argues that if you have the clear defensive advantage, why would
you go on the offensive with an army, especially considering how deep the snow
will be? Ramsay says he can do this with 20 good men. Whatever he’s up to, I’m
assuming it’s not what any good military man would expect. And probably
involves the removal of fingernails at some point.
Meanwhile,
at the Wall, Sam is recovering from his injuries with Gilly (whose baby, as
someone commented to us last week, is still a baby, despite the fact it was
born three years ago, something that never occurred to me!) and is visited by
Ollie. This is the second scene where Ollie has argued with a man of the Night’s
Watch about the plan, and it feels ominous to me. What did you think of Sam and
Gilly’s conversation, and then Ollie’s?
Christopher: I think this was a
very tight little scene that speaks to the truth of Sam’s words: here we are in
the heart of Castle Black, and Sam feels compelled to grab a blade when someone
knocks at the door. “Wildling are people,” he tells Ollie. “Just like us, there
are good ones and bad ones.” Given that Sam has had a recent run-in with some
of the bad ones who are supposedly on his side, who would have beaten him to
death and raped Gilly were it not for Ghost, he has a better sense of this than
does Ollie. Ollie can hardly be faulted for hating the wildlings, and Tormund
in particular, but it is worth noting that if his village had been north of the
wall it might well have suffered a similar fate at the hands of Karl Tanner and
his renegade crows.
Not
that Sam makes this point, or that Ollie would accept it. The tensions and the
conflicts in the Castle Black storyline this season are very much about hatreds
and enmities so deeply rooted than many people simply cannot see past them,
even if it’s a matter of their own survival.
Which
is what makes Sam’s well-meaning words—as you say—so very ominous. “Sometimes,
a man has to make hard choices,” he says, “choices that might look wrong to
others, but you know are right in the long run.” It’s obvious that while Sam is
talking about Jon Snow, Ollie is thinking about what he thinks is right, and what hard choice he might make in the future. “Try not to worry, Ollie,” Sam says.
“I’ve been worrying about Jon for years. He always comes back.” Not quite
what’s on Ollie’s mind, Samwell—a man suspects that Ollie is hoping he won’t come back with ships stuffed with
wildlings.
Cue
Jon Snow’s crossing the Delaware moment, as his men row him into the docks at
Hardhome, where he’s greeted by a wall of faces all wearing expressions not
dissimilar to Ollie’s.
I
think it’s fair to say that the ending of this episode is one of the most
spectacular sequences Game of Thrones
has given us … and that’s saying a lot. What did you think of it, Nikki?
Nikki: Oh wow, you’re
right! I’d completely forgotten about this ending. NOT.
Wow...
every year the production crew of Game of
Thrones is faced with some insane battle in the books, and they have to try
to up the ante of what they did the year before. And as I immediately said on
Twitter at the end of this one, this episode = Rome + The Walking Dead. We
saw the spectacular battle at Castle Black last season, which followed the
Battle of Blackwater, the Red Wedding, the mutiny at Craster’s... they’ve all
been beautifully choreographed and the budgets are so big, you can just imagine
hundred-dollar bills shooting out of a cannon in the background. This battle
resembles the Red Wedding more than Blackwater or Castle Black, simply because
it’s less a battle and more a full-on slaughter. First we have wildlings and
Thenns vs. Tormund and Jon Snow, then wildling on wildling (those who agree
with Tormund, and those who are on the side of the Thenns), then the wights
show up, the skeletal zombies of the wildling dead, and then the white walkers
show up (thanks, by the way, GRRM for calling them wights and white walkers,
because THAT is not confusing when we’re hearing it and not reading it)... it’s
just a madhouse. The CGI on the skelezombies was terrifying, and they move so
fast they made The Walking Dead look
like a rom-com in comparison.
I
loved Karsi (whose name I had to look up because I never caught anyone calling
her by name on the show), the wildling who actually listens to John and Tormund
and trusts them enough to hand over her children to them. She’s played by
Birgitte Hjort Sørenson, whom I immediately recognized as a Danish actress,
though I couldn’t put my finger on what I knew her from. And yet, as I kept
saying to my husband, I swear I saw her in something recently where she wasn’t
playing a Dane. And then IMDb tells me she was the German Kommissar in Pitch Perfect 2, which I’d just seen the
day before with my daughter.
Sadly,
there were no a capella battles in
this episode (I bet she and Jon Snow could have done a mean “Islands in the
Stream”) and instead in the melée it becomes an every man for himself
situation. The moment Karsi handed off her children, my husband and I assumed
she was a goner. Then she became a formidable comrade on the battlefield and I
was excited that she might actually live and become a great new female
character in the North. And then... she faces off against the child wights.
Since they were only in beginning stage of decomposition it would seem they’ve
been killed recently, and the shocked look on Karsi’s face led me to believe
they may have been her children. Paralyzed in the moment, and unable to hurt
them, she dies in battle, eaten alive by the kinderskelezombies.
As
if the politics and wars going on in Westeros and beyond aren’t unsettling
enough, by the end of this episode it’s clear that no matter where they go, men
will die — Valar Morghulis, after all. And when those men die, they will be
reanimated by the white walkers and become wights, forced to obey the wishes of
the Night’s King — the spiky-headed dude who brought them all to life at the
end — and become an unstoppable army. Which suddenly begs the question in that
horrible eerie silence at the end of the episode: what’s the point of anything
else? The Baratheons, Lannisters, Targaryens, Boltons, Tyrells, and Martells
can fight all they damn well please, but in the end, the white walkers will win
because nothing can stop them. Or... can something stop them?
Did
Jon Snow just become the single most important character of the series? As
someone who hasn’t read the books, I read this ending as a twist that might
have changed the direction of the entire series to this point. Jon has Valyrian
steel. Valyrian steel can kill a white walker. Ned Stark’s Ice sword was made
of Valyrian steel, and it was melted down into two swords — one given to Jaime,
the other to Joffrey. Joffrey did dick-all with his sword — he was too busy
being poisoned to death right after — and then his was given to Tommen, while
Jaime gave his sword to Brienne. The
Targaryens would have had Valyrian steel swords, but Daenerys wouldn’t still
have those. There was that dagger way back near the beginning of the series
that was apparently made of Valyrian steel and was used to try to kill Bran and
then blamed on Tyrion, but I don’t know where that dagger ended up.
So.
If some of the Houses have Valyrian steel — and I’m assuming more, just ones I
either don’t remember or they haven’t been brought up — what if the white
walkers become the thing that actually unites Westeros? They all have to get
together with their swords and stop these things, and that’s the only thing
that will do it.
Hm...
now I’m thinking too far ahead, but the white walkers just made me forget every
other battle that’s either currently being planned, because they all pale in
comparison to the scope of what Jon Snow just saw at the very end.
When
John and Tormund first arrive at Hardhome, they’re met by a group of hostile
people who see Tormund as a traitor and Jon as the one who killed their leader,
and yet they find a way not to be killed on the spot. The battle itself was
spectacular, but it’s these scenes in the huts that everything else rested
upon. What did you think of those, Chris, and could you tell us something more
about the giants? I still don’t follow where their loyalties lie or how many of
them are even left.
Christopher: Kinderskelezombies. That is awesome.
Well,
the first thing I should say is that this whole scene is a major departure from
the books … so in some ways I’m as at sea as you. In A Dance With Dragons, Jon Snow sends an expedition to rescue the
wildlings at Hardhome, but does not go himself. The fleet of ships he sends
runs into bad weather, and a number of them are lost. The ships’ captain sends
a message by raven to Jon, begging for help. Jon at first plans to lead an overland
rescue, then ends up sending it under Tormund’s command.
Hence,
the action and events in the second half of this episode are wholly the
invention of the show.
I’m
wracking my brain to try and remember whether the anti-walker qualities of
Valyrian steel are known or not … I think yes? Or perhaps it’s suspected? (I’m
writing this post on the road, and so don’t have access to my copies of the
books to consult). I seem to think that because of its origins as steel forged
with magic by dragonlords, that it was assumed to be the natural enemy of the
White Walkers.
We’re
given to understand in the books that there are a few hundred blades forged of
Valyrian steel in Westeros, and that they are mostly prized heirlooms among
families of note. We learn at one point that the Lannisters, in spite of their
wealth, never possessed a Valyrian sword until Tywin “appropriates” Ice—that in
fact he had long attempted to acquire one, offering large sums of money to
impoverished houses, but that however much they might need the cash, no one
would ever part with their Valyrian steel. So theoretically, if you could ever
get those people in possession of such weapons to fight together, you could
have a pretty effective shock unit to face off against the Walkers. Of course,
based on what we saw in this episode, their strategy seems to be to hang back
and let their undead hordes do all the dirty work for them, and then add the
newly dead to their ever-growing army. Which at this point is very formidable
indeed.
I
really loved the council of elders scene, especially Tormund’s line re: Jon
Snow, “Well, he’s prettier than my two daughters …” If I have a quibble with it
all, it’s what you mentioned above: that it was obvious from the outset that
Karsi was marked for death. I suspected as much when she made her presence at
the meeting known so overtly, and was inclined to trust Tormund and join her
people to Jon’s cause. When she promises her children that she’ll be along
shortly, I wrote in my notes, “She might as well be wearing a red shirt.” I was
a little annoyed that the writers chose to go with the cliché of the disposable
character—confounding expectations by letting her escape with Jon would have
given us a new and compelling character.
That
being said, her death was heartrending,
especially as, as you suggest Nikki, the sense is that she sees a child of her
own among the child-wights. It’s a chilling moment, if you’ll pardon the pun.
And it’s worth noting that one of them bears more that a passing resemblance to
the child-wight we saw in the very first episode of this show four years ago
and eight weeks ago.
Overall,
this entire sequence was brilliant. I’m not sure what the deal with the giants
is, Nikki, or how many of them there are. The books say that the giants are a dying
race, and there are very few of them left. Wun Wun might well be the last of
his kind, as far as the show is concerned—though now that the wildlings are
allies rather than enemies, that’s too bad. He shows pretty clearly that having
a giant on your side is somewhat advantageous. I loved watching him stomping
the wights and pulling them off him like mere irritants.
The
final moments as Jon Snow’s boat drifts away from the docks and the Night King was
haunting. I think you put your finger on it, Nikki: in that few seconds as the
Night King defiantly brings hundreds, perhaps thousands of the dead back to
reanimated “life,” the look on Jon Snow’s face is one of stupefaction and
despair. How indeed do they fight that
enemy?
I’m
going to go out on a limb and wager that dragons will be involved.
Well,
that’s it for us for another week, sports fans. We’ll see you soon when we do
our review of the penultimate episode. In the meantime, stay warm, keep your
Valyrian steel close, make sure that palisade will withstand zombie attack, and
keep Carl in the goddamn house.
15 comments:
Wow - incredible episode though I immediately felt the same as you in that does it really matter who wins the battle at Winterfell or what life insurance scam a girl breaks up? All that really matters is stopping the White Walkers. Which I think we all assume the dragons will be called on to do (possibly possessed by Bran & Rickon?).
Are the Walkers also coming from the north across the sea where Dany & Tyrion are or could anyone with enough cash simply escape to the other side of the Narrow Sea? Can the WW's really not swim? Also that water must've been FREEZING but I guess the Wildlings are used to it. Do they have a ship the giant can ride on or does the poor buy have to wade the whole way?
Poor Cersei - she's always been my favorite and I hate to see her reduced to slurping spilled water off the dirty floor. Also whatever ninja raid Ramsey has planned should be fun - I just hope Melisandre doesn't die. They will probably need her.
As always thanks for the recap. Only two episodes left and I miss the show already.
-Tim Alan
Kinderskelezombies! You should get royalties whenever that term is used, from this day, until your last day! And I didn’t think of the likely reason that Karsi was so shocked and stunned into inaction. They kept it subtle, instead of beating us over the head with it, which is so brilliant! Never mind that some fans (like me) failed to pick up on it. That’s what blogs and fan forums are for. I can pick up things I missed in later discussions with like-minded fans.
Insightful post once again. I can practically hear Jon Snow pining for the dragons - if White Walkers and Wights can be killed by fire, as well as Valerian steel. Maybe the bunny from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
Marebabe: Ooh, I'd better trademark that term, LOL!! How did the photos look this week? I was thinking of you while choosing them. ;)
Pete: Oh, that's no ordinary rabbit!!!
Tim: Thanks for reminding me of Bran and Rickon (other than Sansa finding out about them, I haven't thought much of them at all!) I never considered that Bran's gift might be used with the dragons; that's very intriguing!!
It's been a long time since I've commented! But always love the recaps.
I felt Karsi's kids were safe on the boat and that these were either children she knew or that the idea of wight children was so beyond her that there was no way she could fight and kill children.
As for the Giant - -I hope he doesn't have to swim! I said to my husband, "I think we need a bigger boat!" Could you imagine a Giant wight??
I don't want to tread on spoiler territory or anything, but have the discussions here talked about theories and possible twists coming -- ie Jon's true parents, other characters lineage, who/what could the three headed dragon be, etc. I have a coworker that has also read the books and is watching the series and we have started sharing and discussing all different theories. You all are so smart I thought we could discuss but I don't want to throw things out there and ruin it for anyone.
Also, did anyone else get the feeling the White Walker wearing the black breastplate/vest "armor" felt like he could be a former Crow, maybe Benjen Stark???
The Talk and Sight themes mentioned are brilliant. That battle was insane. Blood, gore, violence. Hard to watch, for sure. It was the silence of King of the Dead, and the silence of allllll the dead rising that gave me the most chills. LOVE this show. Great recap, as always!
-Elle
Nikki, I just looked at the pictures again with a critical eye, and most are fine-to-excellent. But I would have to rate the one of Tyrion and Jorah together AND the close-up of Jaqen H’ghar as “too dark”. At least, that’s how they seem on my computer monitor. But, hey, you’re doing such a brilliant and awesome thing here with your reviews and discussion, the LAST thing I would want to do is complain! :)
House Lannister once did own a Valyrian steel blade named Brightroar. King of the Rock Tommen II sailed to Valyria with it (pre-Doom) and was never seen again. Tywin has spent much of his life trying to obtain a replacement, which is why his melting down of Ice is even more of a knife in the heart.
@Nikki
Was Karsi also the Naked Woman on top of the tower in Mad Max: Fury Road? If not, those women looked very similar. I'm also sad to see her go; when they were arguing in the hut, I took a liking to her and thought she'd become another fun ally to join the Wall.
@Christopher
The Night King is TERRIFYING. Do you think he's in charge of it all, or could there possibly be someone/something even MORE unsettling above him? The books haven't dived much into the White Walker lore as of yet, and I've always found villains more fascinating than anyone else. Do you think Night King is even part of GRRM's plan?
That's really hard to say. The Night's King is a figure of northern lore in the novels, mentioned by a handful of characters (including Ygritte). He was supposedly a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch in its early days, soon after the Wall was first built. He fell in love with a woman beyond the Wall with white skin and blue eyes, bringing her back as his bride. He named himself the Night's King and ruled from the Nightfort for thirteen years, in which he committed horrifying atrocities. He was finally brought down when the Starks of Winterfell joined forces with the King-Beyond-the-Wall.
Is this guy one and the same? No idea. We haven't seen much of the White Walkers in the novels (or Others, as they're also called) -- the show has been more explicit with them. Now, whether that's Benioff and Weiss striking out on their own, or hewing to notes given to them by GRRM, or somewhere in between, is only something we'll be able to clarify once GRRM finishes his damn books.
As for whether the Night King is the big cheese, or whether he answers to a higher power ... The Red Priests say that the only god is R'Hllor, and the Great Enemy is the Lord of Darkness, who hates light and warmth and all living things. It may be that the Night King is this Lord of Darkness, or may be one of his avatars, or perhaps one of his minions. It would be interesting the see Melisandre face off against him: she has shown that she can do magic, and so it may be that the Walkers are just the equivalent of priests.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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