“That was where I was told I could summon the monster. That’s before I realized that it was the one summoning me.”“We’re very close to the end, Hugo.” (Lost fans at home: "WAAAAAAH!!")
“Did you say there were some OTHER people to kill?”
“Maybe this is happening for a reason. Maybe you’re supposed to fix me.”
“I’ll do it. This is why I’m here. This is what I’m supposed to do.”
“I like to feel my feet on the ground. It reminds me that... I was human.”
Wow... the penultimate episode. SO close to the end... going into this episode, I’ve been doing a lot of media interviews this week and many of the interviewers are saying, “They have a LOT of ground to cover off in that finale, don’t you think??” But after this week’s episode, where many of the sideways people are coming together, where Jack has become Jacob’s official successor, where Ben has stepped up his game, where we now know what Smokey is up to... I think they’ve set the stage PERFECTLY for that finale. Wow... less than a week away and it’s all over. Thank god they made it count. I am now even more psyched for that finale than I was before. I didn’t think that was possible!!
Answers:
• Widmore works on Jacob’s side. Jacob recruited him off-island the same way he recruited Ilana.
• Jacob: “You were all flawed. I chose you because you were like me. You were all alone. You were all looking for something that you couldn’t find out there. I chose you because you needed this place as much as it needed you.”
• Kate’s name was crossed off because she was a mother.
• The cave names WERE Jacob’s, and he was the one crossing them off, even though we thought it was Smokey.
• Widmore brought Desmond to the island because he was immune to the electromagnetism. Still not clear why he needed that.
• Smokey wants to destroy the island.
Highlights:
• Manipulative, bad American accent Desmond!!!
• “We have to kill him Jack.” “I know.” Both my husband and I went, “OOOOH!!” loudly. Finally! ACTION!!
• Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, and Jack all standing on the beach looking out at the wreckage. There was something so melancholy about that scene, like you could see on all their faces the looks of what they’ve gone through over the past three years.
• Desmond beating the crap out of Ben and Ben seeing the other world. Holy CRAP, Desmond!!! I didn’t know he had it in him.
• Miles: “Well I lived in these houses 30 years before you did... otherwise known as last week.” LOL!
• Richard buried Alex. :::sniffle:::
• Miles, seeing the ancient door in Ben’s back room, “And what is that, a secreter room?”
• Ben and Widmore!! IN THE SAME ROOM!!
• The look on Desmond’s face when he ends up in the jail cell with Sayid, next to Kate.
• I was so excited when morose Sawyer referred to Locke as “Flocke,” but upon rewatch I think he said, “If Locke wanted...” and it just sounded like “Flocke.” False alarm.
• Petit Jacob!
• “Give me your walkie-talkies.” “Why?” “Because I asked.” HA!! (Actually, that would have been even better if Widmore had said, “Um... technically you DIDN’T ask. You demanded.”
• Holy Richard Alpert Smokey tackle!!! WTF was that?! Is he OK??
• Alex: “Why would someone want to hurt you? You’re like the nicest guy ever!” I LOVE how different Ben is in this world!!
• Rousseau!!! And she cleans up well! :)
• “Zoe... my name is Zoe, I’m...” SLICE!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Earlier in this episode when Richard and Ben had their guns pointed at her, I was yelling, “SHOOT. HER. WHAT are you WAITING for???” But this scene was so much better. I now find myself on Team Man in Black!!!
• Ben turning away in mock “I’m not listening” when Widmore says he doesn’t want him in the room.
• Ben shooting Widmore!!! “He doesn’t get to save his daughter.” Ben is BACK!!
• “Ben... you never cease to amaze me.”
• Jacob saying he crossed Kate off because she was a mother. I actually welled up when he said that, as if to suggest that motherhood is as important a job as protecting that island. Quite a thing to say, considering his mother. That was like the perfect Mother’s Day card from Darlton.
• “I thought that guy had a God Complex before.” Ha! Poor Sawyer, trying to make light of a difficult situation.
• I loved Jack agreeing to the job, bringing his character full circle from Christian telling Vincent, “My son has work to do” in the thirteenth mobisode. This moment had a real finality to it.
• Sayid referring to Desmond as the crazy person in the van. “I ran over a guy in a wheelchair.” “See what I mean?” LOL!
• Ana Lucia!!! She’s even more hardass in this world than the other one!!
Did You Notice?:
• OK, first of all, that previously on bit? PAINFUL. Did they really need to show me everything that broke my heart two weeks ago? Like I was going to forget it or something. Wah. Pain.
• Did anyone else notice that at breakfast they were all eating a cereal called “Super Bran”? Did anyone else laugh as hard as I did at that revelation? It’s weird, because this is the first season where I didn’t think Jack had something up his butt. :::snicker:::
• Claire’s pregnancy belly is SO fake. The season 1 belly looked real. This one does NOT.
• Jack stitching up Kate is reminiscent of Kate stitching up Jack in the pilot episode.
• Sawyer stares out at the water the way Locke and the Man in Black always did.
• That high school seriously needs 24-hour surveillance. (One nitpick: I doubt the students would be welcoming back a substitute teacher like he was some long-term prof who has shaped them for years.)
• Ben’s safe has a fridge light in it that comes on when he opens the door! ;)
• Widmore must have run that water a LONG time before taking a sip. Who exactly has been on the island to keep the plumbing working and the water clean??
• When Widmore talks about Jacob, you can hear the Jacob music playing in the background, as if to suggest Widmore is telling the truth.
• Ben’s injuries, from his facial lacerations right down to the broken left arm, are almost identical to the ones Desmond inflicted on the dock.
• When Ben looks in the mirror (mirror!) he has this weird sneer on his face and looks like some bully in a Norman Rockwell painting.
• I said in “Everybody Loves Hugo” that I wondered if the museum would end up being the place they’d all end up gathering at, and I was right!! It’s where the concert is being held. Jack and his kiddo, now Hurley, Sayid, Kate, Desmond... Miles and Charlotte, Pierre Chang (they’re going to get Sawyer’s butt there somehow... probably following Kate’s butt), and I can hope Eloise and Daniel and Penneh are among the guests. And... Jack’s wife. Watch... after all this speculation it’ll probably end up being Sarah. Ha!! Cannot WAIT!!!! Maybe the dinosaur bones will all come to life and will eat them all. And Hank Azaria will get into a battle of wits with Steve Coogan.
• Des asks Kate how she’s doing, and she mutters, “Terrific.” That was a word Charlie used in the pilot episode, and Frank Lapidus said it again when he realized the plane wasn’t going to Guam.
• Sawyer accepting responsibility for the deaths, and Jack telling him it wasn’t his fault. That was a lovely bromance scene.
• Jacob is sitting next to the fire, and those red flowers are next to him (they usually appear in a scene that’s particularly foreboding and often ends in death).
• “You’ve got one hand. You look like Napoleon.” That line would have been funny if they hadn’t already beaten home the BEN IS NAPOLEON idea in “Dr. Linus,” where he had the entire classroom lecture on how Napoleon got the island but he didn’t have any power and so it was useless, yadda yadda.
• “We insist!! Even if we have to kidnap you.” LOL sideways world role reversal!!
• OMG could you imagine Rousseau and Ben hooking up???
• Ben has always felt close to Alex, but the fact he tears up when Rousseau talks about him being a father figure suggests that maybe the emotions from the other world are shifting over into that one, even if the actual circumstances surrounding them haven’t broken through yet. He definitely looks at Rousseau differently when she’s up close, like he knows her somehow.
• “You don’t need to see this.” “I wanna see this.”
• Smokey to Widmore on Zoe: “You told her not to talk to me. That made her pointless.” Sorry to break it to you Smokey, but she was pointless LONG before you cut her throat.
• Jacob says he only has until the fire burns out, and I turned to my husband and said, “It would really suck if there was suddenly a flash rainshower right now!!” ;)
• The cuts on Locke’s face when he goes to see Jack are in the same spots as the ones he had in “The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham” when he was hit by the car.
• Locke says he was hit by a car, and “of all of the doctors in Los Angeles I ended up with you.” This is what he says to Jack in “Bentham,” but Jack, who’s strung out and high and hates Locke, freaks out and says that’s crazy talk and refuses to listen to him. In this scene you can tell Jack’s not completely on board, but he tolerates what Locke says. Then Locke keeps on talking, and when he says, “Maybe this is happening for a reason,” a line he said over and over in the other world, the line that made Jack go NUTS, Jack simply says here, “Maybe you’re mistaking coincidence for fate.” In “What Kate Did,” Locke marvels at the fact that Eko brought the missing piece of orientation film, and Eko says, “Don’t mistake coincidence for fate.” In “The Cost of Living,” Desmond remarks that a plane crashing on the top of the Pearl station was quite a coincidence, and Locke, whose faith was shaken when the hatch exploded, responds, “Don’t mistake coincidence for fate.” Jack saying it to Locke in this world doesn’t actually make Locke rise to the fight... he simply says, “Call it what you will” and they continue to have their conversation. It’s interesting that they’re not at each other’s throats in this world.
• I loved Jacob’s blunt, “No you weren’t” when Sawyer said he was just fine before Jacob bugged him.
• Jacob says he wants to give all of them the choice, because he didn’t have one. Kate says but what if none of us chooses it. He says it’ll end badly. So... it’s not really a choice, is it? SOMEONE has to do it, and all four can’t walk away.
• I ♥ Jack.
• “Now you’re like me.” This is what Mommie Dearest said to Jacob last week.
• You know what? If the only world I had to go on was the sideways world, I’d be a Skater all the way. LOVE the flirtation between them in this world!!
• Smokey refers to Desmond as Widmore’s “failsafe”... the reason Desmond is the way he is, is because he turned the failsafe key in the Swan station.
So Many Questions...
• What does that red gash on the side of Jack’s neck signify? He saw it in the mirror on the airplane in “LA X,” and now he sees it again, like it’s fresh and gaping again. It doesn’t look like he cut himself shaving... could it be some indication of the two worlds opening to each other?
• The sideways world opens on Jack’s eye... is it possible that now that he’s the new Jacob, he actually creates this world somehow? Could this entire world be something that exists in his head? Or something he gave the world as a gift?
• Holy crap, was Desmond planning on running over Locke AGAIN?! How many times does he have to mow the guy down to make him see the light? Why is it so hard to get Locke to see the other side?
• Did Miles get any message or a feeling from Alex when he stepped over her? He says to Ben, “I don’t think...” but never finishes.
• Is Desmond’s hair darker in this world?
• Any police officers out there reading this? Would men and women be in cells where they could see each other in lockup? What if one had to go to the bathroom?
• Why does little Jacob appear to Hurley? Why not just appear as his older self? Is there a reason to use the child version?
• Does Ben really want the island all to himself? Or is he also working on ulterior motives aligning himself with Smokey?
• Does anyone know what the Latin incantation is that Jacob says?
• What happens when someone drinks the water? Does Jack end up having some longterm island memory, like he’s now aware of everything that’s ever happened?
• What is Desmond going to ask Sayid and Kate to do?
• Why is Ana Lucia not ready yet? Is this just a convenient device not to involve her?
• Why are there different degrees of visions? Ben has the vision of being hit but nothing else, yet Hurley totally knows Ana Lucia.
• How is Smokey going to use Desmond to destroy the island? And... doesn’t that kind of cancel off the promise he made to Ben that if Ben helps him he’ll let him have the island??
Me tomorrow:
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 411 of 411...Year when the bomb went off, and Juliet died.
1977? They were in the Dharma Initiative?
...oh, and then Juliet died after the bomb went of and they came back, so 2007.
*went oFF*
I had asked: "Can anybody please remind me what year they were in when the bomb went off, and Juliet died? The plane took off in 2004, but what year were Jack, Sawyer, Kate, etc. In? Please?"
Benny said: "@Gracie: Just coming back to the blog, missed some detailed discussions that, unfortunately I won't get to reply to. The bomb went off in 1977. The plane (I'm assuming you're referring to Ajira 316) took off in 2007/2008 (still unclear)"
Zari said:" ...Year when the bomb went off, and Juliet died.
1977? They were in the Dharma Initiative?"
Benny said: "...oh, and then Juliet died after the bomb went of and they came back, so 2007."
Thanks guys: I had just popped in myself after being away for awhile. Benny, if you read that again, I meant for it to say the plane (as in the original) Oceanic 815, took off in 2004. Sorry I didn't make that more clear.
Yes, I was referring to the bomb that Juliet set off, and what year Sawyer, Jack, Miles, Kate, and the rest of that group were in at the time. (Not too long after this they took Sayid to the Temple.) I thought it was 1977, but just about the time that I would assume that to be correct, I'd be wrong.
Zari: Your "They were in the Dharma Initiative?" was followed by a question mark, and I had to sit here for a few minutes to try and recall what was going on just before the bomb, but that is correct. Sayid had just recently been shot, Miles had told his father to get the women and children off the island, and they were heading to the Swan site. Yes, Juliet died, unfortunately. I'm still hoping she's coming back around to go "dutch" with Sawyer.
Morning, Gracie!
I was just reading your question on Jack's appendix scar and its implications for timeline bleed-through. My take on this is that the sideways timeline is NOT just a version of our original timeline in which Oceanic 815 did not crash but a truly 'other' or parallel timeline. We've seen dramatic differences in storyline (Shannon not being on the plane, Hurley never having experienced the mental breakdown or catastrophic luck after the lottery win, Daniel studying music, etc., etc.) - enough perhaps for us to accept that the events that we know so well from the original timeline may never have occurred in the FST or occurred in a radically altered way.
So, in the FST, Jack had his appendix taken out by his Dad at an early age. In the original timeline, this never occurred and Juliet removed it on the Island. What we see again and again now in the FST are people puzzling over some events/memories - as if they remembered them happening differently, or in the case of Jack's appendix, not remembering the scar at all.
Now, since Charlie 'enlightened' Desmond and Des has proceeded to do the same for Hurley, we've seen people seem to have knowledge of events in BOTH timelines at once. Daniel has displayed this, certainly Desmond himself has and the epiphany experienced by Ben seems to have opened him up to this knowledge as well. This is the 'bleed-through' of the timelines - and things like the blood on Jack's neck seems to indicate that this is taking place with physical elements as well as intellectual ones.
Tonight, I think we will see that more and more of our FST gang are aware of these crossovers and begin to take action based on them. So, what will this teach us about the nature of the FST? Is it real? (Daniel thinks not) Was it created by the bomb explosion at the Hatch from the end of last season? Or, was it always there but somehow accessed as a result of this Incident? Can't wait to find out!
Hope this clears things up a bit for you. Enjoy the finale!
@humanebean/Gracie: Food for thought!
I think there are two (more likely) association for the sideways reality. In my own opinion it is either:
A] A completely different reality that has evolved since [the beginning of time?] but is extremely similar, with the obvious - David - difference; or,
B] A completely different reality only back to 1977 (incident/bomb) where the reality branched in order to avoid [chaos?].
I think [B] is more fitting. So far, we've seen nothing that suggests differences in the worlds prior to 1977. And the whole bomb/"it worked" comment.
There is also:
C] It has been created by one of the characters somehow for some reason and we'll find out this evening!
oh... and Gracie, then I guess I just assumed wrong about the flight!
And when someone posts as 'Anonymous' don't worry about them, they're unlikely to come back...
I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!
Thanks, humanebean! Another example of bleed-through is sideways Locke mumbling "Button" and something else when he's coming out of anesthesia.
Also, his expression on the pavement echoed his look after "awakening" from his 8-story fall and upon "awakening" on his back after the initial plane crash.
I *DO* think that Desmond's intent was to run Locke over again, before Ben stopped him.
@Blam, humanebean and Benny: I just wanted to check the post one last time, and I probably will again before the shows start tonight. Thanks for any and all clarifications and reminders or updates, as I am keeping notes and they should come in handy tonight. I am always grateful to you, you know that!
My appreciation to this blog, and it's helpful comrades, knows no boundaries! I have appreciated ALL of you.
@Benny said: "oh... and Gracie, then I guess I just assumed wrong about the flight!
And when someone posts as 'Anonymous' don't worry about them, they're unlikely to come back...
I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!"
I'm not sure what you mean Benny when you say "I think you've given us plenty of post-today fodder!" I can take that a couple of ways and wondered if you would please clarify what you meant?
Also, regarding "Anonymous": I did know two things immediately,
1. This person does not know me, anything about me, and I never would have stood a chance with that person anyway, and
2. I knew that Anonymous was not of this blog. After the welcome I received here? There was no way. And everyone here goes out of their way to make clarifications or to help in any way possible, and I knew that would help me before I joined or even e-mailed Nikki. If I hadn't known that, I never would have said anything at all. That was the reason this blog was where I wanted to be, and I hope that everyone who is a regular here knows that.
Enjoy The Show!
Eek... sorry, guys, I've been TOTALLY shirking my moderating duties here. I realize some stuff has broken out and I didn't know about it.
While I think the Anonymous post was harsh (and most posts that are harsh are usually posted anonymously!!) I think some restraint should be used by all. I have had some complaints emailed me to recently that there are some people on here (not just one, and I won't name names) who are dominating the comments section asking a lot of questions, many times the same question over and over, and because several of my readers actually subscribe to the comments on each post, their inboxes have been inundated, they're ending their subscriptions to my site, and they're even stopping coming here.
So if you have a lot of questions, try to form them into one comment. Wait for people to respond. If they don't, assume they've seen it, but simply don't know the answer. Don't keep asking the same questions.
If you have an interesting theory, throw it out there, and if people like it, they'll respond, and you can respond back to them, but again, if no one responds to it, just let it go.
It's even become difficult for me to moderate because there are so many comments... this season more than ever I've found it difficult, and now I'm worried that things are happening or being said that I wasn't aware of because it was happening at the end of a thread and I was dealing with other threads by that point.
If you are attacked, please do not attack back. It's an unwritten rule we have on here... email me to let me know it's happened, and I'll deal with what is happening. But the moment we start arguing with each other on here, people jump ship, it's no longer a welcoming place, and everyone loses.
I hate being the rulemaker here (that's Jacob's job, not mine!!) but I really don't want to lose a bunch of readers on a account of a few who are using the comments section for their own reasons rather than being involved in all of the discussions. If you have any questions, please email me and we can discuss it further.
I really love what all of you guys bring to the blog. I hope I don't offend anyone by anything I've said here, and know that I've never seen this blog as solely mine... it's ours. And that's why I'm saying this, so we don't lose any parts of our community. ;)
Why is Ana Lucia not ready yet? Is this just a convenient device not to involve her?
I believe it was Cuse and Lindelof sucking up to the fans' dislike of Ana-Lucia. Just before her death, Ana managed to have at least two epiphanies about herself. Apparently, the two producers decided to ignore them.
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